honest_bertie Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Would rather Sell CNZ, Given and Ireland. Then use the money to bring in some creative players to supply bent. You will struggle to give those 3 players away then give them away and use the wages to pay some better players, must be at least £125,000 a week in wages there in total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troglodyte Posted October 22, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted October 22, 2012 Read up on how football transfers work. You can't just "give" players away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honest_bertie Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Read up on how football transfers work. You can't just "give" players away. sorry, figure of speech not allowed on here? I do appreciate there is more to moving on a player than just "giving" them away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troglodyte Posted October 22, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted October 22, 2012 Then you will understand that you can't simply "use their wages" to improve the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honest_bertie Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 sorry Troglodyte all I was trying to point out was that if those three were not at Villa the respective wages that would be freed up would a lot of money and could potentially be used to pay other, more effective players. Perhaps I am being to simplistic in my thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentingthereslowly Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I hate the way people assume if we get rid of Bent, Ireland or CNZ off the wage bill we'll bring in absolute quality. Firstly whatever money we get, RL will probably take a cut out off and secondly we will be paying lower wages. Saw we get 12m, 4m, and 6m (that would be assuming people would buy them and optimistic prices) gives un 22m Randy probably pulls 4-8m. What players can we bring in for 14-18m that will improve our squad that much given we will probably only be offering 30k a week wages. It will be january so I dont really want to take a punt on some unprovens like we have already in Bowrey, Westwood and Benteke (think hell come good soon). Bearing in mind its January and the purchase price of potential replacements will be inflated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwpzxjor1 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 We're trying to reduce the wage bill. That doesn't mean that when we offload someone we get someone in on the same wages. We've clearly already got our 'cheaper replacements' for Warnock and Hutton with Lowton and Bennett, we just weren't able to shift the first 2. So when those 2 DO go, I don't think we can expect any money 're-invested', in Villa's eyes we've already done so. If Bent was to go then someone like Zaha would be more our type of signing. Might cost a fair bit initially but relatively cheap in wages. It's yet another unproven player though, but proven players demand more wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerbs Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 If we're not going to play direct with wingers then we might as well sell Bent. He has no influence on the game whatsoever with the system Lambert is trying to get us to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmarsha_926 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 This was from October 1st Aston Villa Stats @AVFC_Stats Barry Bannan and Darren Bent have both created chances for teammates 9 times this season - the joint most for Villa - and this was from someone today Moustafa Mahmoud @dotetochelsea Darren Bent has created more chances for teammates this season (11) than any of Villa's midfielers. #AVFC #Premier League People say he does not do nothing but he is creating chances, the chances we want home on the end of not creating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 He's been comfortably our best striker so far this year. Probably because he is comfortably our best striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Needs to start next match, not even a debate anymore.. Hes our best striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I am really sick of him running off to the media now. He didn't start 2 games for **** sake, get over it Darren! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Its been mentioned, but he really does'nt seem interested. Not particularly his fault, but its looking more of an ill fit with every game. Crazy to think that if hes not arsed its not his fault. Who's fault is it then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I am really sick of him running off to the media now. He didn't start 2 games for **** sake, get over it Darren! What's he done / said now ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KjParton Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 What's he done / said now ? I think he may have been talking about this released by the metro. Don't really think what he's said hints he wants a january leave. Shit paper. The 28-year-old has been one of the victims of Paul Lambert’s rotation policy which has been implemented at the club since the manager joined from Norwich over the summer. Bent claims the chopping and changing of the team means he has found it difficult to find a rhythm this term and has netted just two goals as a result, with Lambert’s side languishing towards the bottom of the table. ‘Any player who values himself wants to play week in, week out. In rotation it is hard to find a rhythm but it was the manager's decision,’ said the former Tottenham striker. ‘You have to live by that and you have to keep working hard.’ Bent started the first five of Villa’s Premier League games this season, but has since found himself on the bench with summer signing Christian Benteke becoming Lambert’s preferred option. Bent and Lambert have already fallen out this term when the former Norwich boss opted to strip Bent of the captaincy and replace him with Ron Vlaar. The striker is thought to be wanted by several Premier League sides including Liverpool who are in desperate need of a front-man in January. Read more: http://www.metro.co....y#ixzz2A3FwV3OB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Yeah when I read the headline I was fuming with him. Then I read quite possibly the shittest article in history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentingthereslowly Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Saw the interview and you can only agree with him. Can't blame a guy for not wanting to be rotated out. He also hinted he wants to work hard and get a run in team. Can't fault any of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmarsha_926 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Bent is right in a way, we have new players to the PL and our squad, you cannot get the team to gel if you rotate players. Today told me Bent and Weimann are the two best finishers at the club and both started when we beat Swansea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Lets just play all three of them, boot the ball to Benteke, let Gabby chase and then let Bent score. Job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul33 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 So how many games do we have to give Bent before he finds his "rhythm" and what division will we be in by then ? Whatever his beef is, I'm getting totally fed up of his loose mouth with the press and, apart from the fact that I think he's the worst striker we've had since David Geddes, I'd get rid of him to anybody who wants him as soon as possible. Benteke may need time but he will prove his worth ...... Bent has had his chance and shown that he's a one-trick pony and that trick is pretty crap now ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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