VillaAndLoyal Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Well the answers are pretty loaded aren't they. I voted no, but I don't think you should shut up with it. I just personally don't get why everyone is so obsessed with standing up, if you've got kids or your a short ass its a nightmare to see when people are standing. I quite like the great view I get from my seat. (when the tall guy in front is in his seat too) It is a fact Jon that many hundreds of thousands of people up and down the UK still stand at the football - why not give these people the chance to do it safely while other people like yourself can sit down and not have the hassle of someone deciding to stand in front of you? Thus wrecking your matchday experience. It's surely a win-win situation, Jon? You can then make a concious choice about whether you stand or sit at the football. Added to that, it will help create a better atmosphere at Villa Park thus boosting the team on the pitch, which is in everybody's interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_c Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Well the answers are pretty loaded aren't they. I voted no, but I don't think you should shut up with it. I just personally don't get why everyone is so obsessed with standing up, if you've got kids or your a short ass its a nightmare to see when people are standing. I quite like the great view I get from my seat. (when the tall guy in front is in his seat too) It is a fact Jon that many hundreds of thousands of people up and down the UK still stand at the football - why not give these people the chance to do it safely while other people like yourself can sit down and not have the hassle of someone deciding to stand in front of you? Thus wrecking your matchday experience. It's surely a win-win situation, Jon? You can then make a concious choice about whether you stand or sit at the football. Added to that, it will help create a better atmosphere at Villa Park thus boosting the team on the pitch, which is in everybody's interest. I get your point and I voted no more that I don't like standing myself as to stop.a stamding area. But a standing area will not stop people standing in the seated areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazdavies79 Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Reading this thread I thought I'd post this video of Villa Park in the early 70's. Seeing the Holte packed to the rafters is an awesome sight but it's also interesting to see the Witton End before that horrible monstrosity that's there now was put up. Those days are gone, mostly for the better, but I'm all for safe standing. Unfortunately, I highly doubt it will happen, too much of a political hot potato. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danceoftheshamen Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Absolutely Yes! The atmosphere has never been the same since all seating came in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaAndLoyal Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Well the answers are pretty loaded aren't they. I voted no, but I don't think you should shut up with it. I just personally don't get why everyone is so obsessed with standing up, if you've got kids or your a short ass its a nightmare to see when people are standing. I quite like the great view I get from my seat. (when the tall guy in front is in his seat too) It is a fact Jon that many hundreds of thousands of people up and down the UK still stand at the football - why not give these people the chance to do it safely while other people like yourself can sit down and not have the hassle of someone deciding to stand in front of you? Thus wrecking your matchday experience. It's surely a win-win situation, Jon? You can then make a concious choice about whether you stand or sit at the football. Added to that, it will help create a better atmosphere at Villa Park thus boosting the team on the pitch, which is in everybody's interest. I get your point and I voted no more that I don't like standing myself as to stop.a stamding area. But a standing area will not stop people standing in the seated areas. So if you don't like standing - and you've already made reference to the fact that someone sometimes stands in front of you - then by supporting the Stand Up Sit Down campaign you will be helping to solve this problem and give football fans a choice. A standing area would dramatically reduce (at the least) the number of instances of people standing in seated areas. Obviously the extent to which can only be speculated on because we don't know how large the standing area would be, but it would be a win-win situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappy Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 It's a no brainer, obviously yes yes yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillett7 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 i would rock out with my cock out 2 this , yes yes yes. Theres people bringing homemade cakes and all sorts in the Holte end these days, makes my blood boil!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 I find it highly ironic that the eight people who have voted 'no' have not expressed their reason why on this thread.... That's not irony :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaAndLoyal Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 I find it highly ironic that the eight people who have voted 'no' have not expressed their reason why on this thread.... That's not irony :? It is after a previous post I made on this thread :nod: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peever Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Reading this thread I thought I'd post this video of Villa Park in the early 70's. Seeing the Holte packed to the rafters is an awesome sight but it's also interesting to see the Witton End before that horrible monstrosity that's there now was put up. Those days are gone, mostly for the better, but I'm all for safe standing. Unfortunately, I highly doubt it will happen, too much of a political hot potato. 2:12 there showing theh olte packed to the tits is just magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackpotForeigner Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Well the answers are pretty loaded aren't they. I voted no, but I don't think you should shut up with it. I just personally don't get why everyone is so obsessed with standing up, if you've got kids or your a short ass its a nightmare to see when people are standing. I quite like the great view I get from my seat. (when the tall guy in front is in his seat too) Well at least you've come out and admitted you voted no! But mate, if there were standing areas, don't you think it would be a lot easier to tell the tall bloke in front of you to sit t.f. down? It's not like they're going to rip out all the seating areas. If you don't like standing, buy a seat in the seating areas. You will be with like-minded people, and everyone's a winner. I'm surprised how few people have drawn attention to the fact that (although it was a dreadful tragedy), Hillsborough was pretty much a one-off. Fans had stood up safely enough for more than 100 years before that. Banning standing was nothing more than a classic H&S kneejerk reaction, with typical H&S disregard for anything beyond H&S (**** the atmosphere, let's make it a million times safer than it needs to be. You can never be too safe, and how dare you think otherwise). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowandlow Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 stood on the holte in 91/92 and 92/93 when i was aged 6/7 and hated it, i was always moaning about wanting to sit in the posh seats in the nice stands lol would love to have terracing back now though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Can we have a standing plus smoking area aswell Or is that pushing the boat out to far anyone smoking in the ground is a tit. :x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted December 10, 2010 Author Share Posted December 10, 2010 stood on the holte in 91/92 and 92/93 when i was aged 6/7 and hated it, i was always moaning about wanting to sit in the posh seats in the nice stands lol would love to have terracing back now though I was 20 back then and loving it Didn't your Dad sit you on the barrier so you could see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsXI Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Well the answers are pretty loaded aren't they. I voted no, but I don't think you should shut up with it. I just personally don't get why everyone is so obsessed with standing up, if you've got kids or your a short ass its a nightmare to see when people are standing. I quite like the great view I get from my seat. (when the tall guy in front is in his seat too) It is a fact Jon that many hundreds of thousands of people up and down the UK still stand at the football - why not give these people the chance to do it safely while other people like yourself can sit down and not have the hassle of someone deciding to stand in front of you? Thus wrecking your matchday experience. It's surely a win-win situation, Jon? You can then make a concious choice about whether you stand or sit at the football. Added to that, it will help create a better atmosphere at Villa Park thus boosting the team on the pitch, which is in everybody's interest. I get your point and I voted no more that I don't like standing myself as to stop.a stamding area. But a standing area will not stop people standing in the seated areas. No I agree it wont stop people from standing in seating areas but im willing to bet that it would dramatically lessen the numbers doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 10, 2010 VT Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2010 I think it would also make the stewarding of the seated areas, i.e. making eveyrone sit down there, better received because if you want to stand, there's an area where you can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaboy69 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Hell Yes Only problem I see is that these safe standing areas really don't lend themselves to a good old 'knees up mother brown' Those old enough will know what I mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Definitely. Standing provides a much better atmosphere IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappy Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Can we have a standing plus smoking area aswell Or is that pushing the boat out to far anyone smoking in the ground is a tit. :x I went to a Dortmund game last week and you are allowed to smoke in the stands there, didn't seem to be too much of a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy_loes Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Hell Yes Only problem I see is that these safe standing areas really don't lend themselves to a good old 'knees up mother brown' Those old enough will know what I mean Yes I remember well. I think its worth pointing out that it would be doubtful 'terracing' would be brought back. Sanatised safe seating will be nothing more than standing in front of your seat. I am however in favour of it. Rather than have the safe seating as pictured a couple of pages ago, limited terracing with plenty of crash barriers would provide the club with an opportunity to make tickets available at a much cheaper price. There also seems to be a prevalent thought expressed here that it would improve the atmosphere. Not necessarily, people at the game can only do that witness are old friends Rapid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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