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Dante is just looking for an improved contract at Bayern. 

 

Yeah I really think so too.

 

I don't think Man Utd would use much energy to get in a 30 year old centre half who isn't proven in the Premier League. Sure he is at Bayern München and won everything last season, obviously a great player, but I think he could/would struggle a bit more in the Premier League over 38 games where you get so many aerial battles as well as races against speedy attackers. I am not going to stereotype too much, but Brazilian stoppers have the tendency to do a bit too much with the ball, that doesn't work over here. They can't afford to let him use 6-12 months to acclimatize like they did with Vidic.

 

I am sure Moyes would take on a player like Phil Jagielka (31 years old) on a two year contract if he got him really cheap, but that would be a totally different scenario - and most likely lower wages. United need to get in a replacement for Nemanja Vidic in the summer, but in Jonny Evans and Phil Jones they have a very, very solid defensive player and one who is already very good as well as possessing a huge potential ability. Phil Jones is only 21 years old and he has been around for "ages" already, just imagine what he can be at 25+. We have seen Jones getting some stick and he has a reputation of being a bit overcharged at times, but remember he is even younger than Nathan Baker.

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I am sure Moyes would take on a player like Phil Jagielka (31 years old) on a two year contract if he got him really cheap, but that would be a totally different scenario - and most likely lower wages. United need to get in a replacement for Nemanja Vidic in the summer, but in Jonny Evans and Phil Jones they have a very, very solid defensive player and one who is already very good as well as possessing a huge potential ability. Phil Jones is only 21 years old and he has been around for "ages" already, just imagine what he can be at 25+. We have seen Jones getting some stick and he has a reputation of being a bit overcharged at times, but remember he is even younger than Nathan Baker.

 

 

Man Utd fans like actual not potential. Not good enough. Need to add more quality than 1 CB in defence or they will be competing with Tottenham for 6th.

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Mata is a great player but is he the sort of player they really need ? I'm not saying he's better but Cabaye would be cheaper and would probably be a better fit for them for what they need to strengthen at this moment in time

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Do they like having defenders who should have been sent off in Wembley finals but weren't in their squad or something? Dante seems like a decent player, not going to set the world on fire and is the wrong side of 30 but I doubt Bayern will want much for him and he will definitely improve the squad. Rio's replacement.

Would you say Dante's peaked?

 

 

 

I've been trying to think of a decent Dante's Inferno pun to respond with, but I can't. :( 

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Is it just me that thinks £40m for Mata is way too much.

How is it? Probably in the top 3 or 5 in the league the last 2 years. Top class player.

 

I suppose you're right, guess I'm still not used to these super high prices though.

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I actually think the £37m for Mata is decent value from Utd's point of view (with the current level of silly prices). They've bought a few players at ~£30m in the past (Veron, Ferdinand, Berbatov) so think for a WC winner and proven PL player at the right age from a rival club its actually ok.
 
Expecially when you consider last year they paid £25m for an injury prone striker in his 30's with just 1 year left on his contract.
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Yeah I also think it represents good value in today's market.

 

You only have to look at some of the prices banded around in the summer (Soldado £26m, Lamela £30m, Willian £30m) to realise that £37m for Mata isn't over the top.

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Chelsea have hijacked Liverpool's bid for Mohammed Salah from Basel.  I had a feeling Liverpool were taking too long, that deal was meant to be done in December but Liverpool have haggled over the price, now Chelsea have put in a bid too. No idea why, they certainly don't need another midfielder, I think it's more to piss off Liverpool, I doubt they have too many more targets in his position seeing as they've taken over a month now negotiating to get Salah.

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My initial reaction upon reading the Mata news was, 'Well clearly Rooney will be heading in the opposite direction in a few months'. It's not something that i've seen suggested anywhere else, but it would make sense to me.

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