Eames Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Once your fingerprint is compromised, how do you get another one? Biometrics are bad authentication factors. They can all be subverted and once they are, you're screwed. They certainly are for remote portable devices yes...... they are also reliant on the database where the validation data is held being secure. So walking around with a severed finger may raise suspicion but hacking the database to alter fingerprint record data is far less so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted September 20, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted September 20, 2013 Also the home button on iphones is one of the most regularly repaired parts - i.e. when it busts, you can't use your phone. Additionally, potentially one could lift the fingerprint off something shiny like, say, I dunno, an iPhone, then fake it over the sensor. Of course this only really works if the sensor is JUST a fingerprint sensor, but what else does it measure, if anything? Unknown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Well I see Apples master plan of not allowing pre-orders on the 5S has resulted in them being able to generate the hype that all these people queuing up for their latest kit. There will always be some who must have the latest Iphone on the day of launch and who will pretty much queue for days for it, you just wonder though if there as many queuing today when compared to the Iphone 4 launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 It's simple. The stock price will reflect the actual demand. If it drops the demand isn't as high as expected. It's already dropped 8% because pre orders were lower than expected, partially due to low supply of the 5S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 http://allthingsd.com/20130917/carrier-sources-say-iphone-5s-inventory-on-friday-to-be-grotesquely-low/ Apparently they are supply constrained, which is never normally an issue for Apple. I've seen on a few sites that manufacturing of the A7 chip has been slower than expected. It explains the decision not to open up pre orders I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Lions_Roar Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 The shop in brim had sold out by 11am, my mate went to buy one. Don't know how many they actually had to sell though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Lions_Roar Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Also the home button on iphones is one of the most regularly repaired parts - i.e. when it busts, you can't use your phone. Additionally, potentially one could lift the fingerprint off something shiny like, say, I dunno, an iPhone, then fake it over the sensor. Of course this only really works if the sensor is JUST a fingerprint sensor, but what else does it measure, if anything? Unknown. You cans actually put a home button on your screen. My mates broke and he has one on screen now, you can move it about. So all is not lost when it brakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 (edited) We've already heard plenty about Apple testing bugger screens. I think iSodomy will take the world by storm. Edited September 20, 2013 by Davkaus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted September 22, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted September 22, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 The world is full of stupid people. http://news.sky.com/story/1145439/waterproof-iphone-advert-owners-fooled 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 That's genius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 I cannot believe they fell for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Well they believe everything that Apple say so why not. I see according to Apple even with supplies being low they sold 9 million Iphones. I wonder what the split is between 5S & 5C. I wonder why Apple decided to ditch the 5 to make the 5C, when surely it would have made more sense to keep the 5 as a cheaper brother to the 5S and bring the 5C out but based on the 4S with the smaller screen etc. They could have made this even more price competitive and it wouldnt then of detracted people from buying the more expensive handsets if they wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Well it makes sense as they can now sell the 5C as a new phone. They have two phones to sell. The 5S and 5C so they will have a better case than simply saying of the iPhone 5 but with fingerprint reader. It worked back with the 4S but competition is much stronger now. They can't simply live off just S upgrades every other year. Also the 5C us being sold for basically the same price as the 5 would be but it costs less to make and as such has a bigger margin for Apple. Finally it's step one of the new plan. Step two will be when the bigger iphone 6 comes out and they can make big price cuts on the 5C and continue with two screen sizes for iPhones and have a budget entry level one at 4 inches which can adopt the 64 bit architecture of the 5S when needs be. I think it's a very sound strategy and I'd be happy of I was an investor, especially with retina ipad mini coming out soon and new Haswell Macs. Plus the iWatch and Apple TV market sectors ripe for picking next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Also the 5C us being sold for basically the same price as the 5 would be but it costs less to make and as such has a bigger margin for Apple. Except if you believe the tech stories it isnt selling to anywhere near the level that the thought it would mainly because its a plastic Iphone which is £60+ cheaper than the real deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 That's from UK sources though. iphone market share is much lower in Europe than America. Due to the lock in contract system over there people buy a lot of the older model iPhones. While over in Europe a lot of the iPhone owners are only after the latest model. Let's say, their more intelligent by average than an American iphone owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I-nip http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2430654/iPhone-5S-owners-using-NIPPLES-unlock-devices-fingerprint-scanner.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted September 24, 2013 Administrator Share Posted September 24, 2013 The prints are not stored on an Apple server, or backed up to iCloud. I wonder if the NSA are claiming copyright? I can't think why else Apple wouldn't store their own copies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted September 25, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted September 25, 2013 I-niphttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2430654/iPhone-5S-owners-using-NIPPLES-unlock-devices-fingerprint-scanner.html Oi Dodgyknees! The first one was a link to a Murdoch website, but was quite funny, so I can forgive you. The second was to the daily effing Mail, a link that I refuse to click. What is wrong with you?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I'll be waiting for the 6. Another utterly pointless upgrade cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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