Dr_Pangloss Posted May 5, 2017 Author Share Posted May 5, 2017 On 5/2/2017 at 17:02, AshVilla said: Ortiz calling out Joshua That would be an interesting fight Ortiz really isn't very good at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 14 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Ortiz really isn't very good at all. Ortiz should fight wilder in my view. It's a dangerous fight for wilder so he probably will avoid him and fight bellew instead which in my view a complete waste of time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 13 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Ortiz should fight wilder in my view. It's a dangerous fight for wilder so he probably will avoid him and fight bellew instead which in my view a complete waste of time Every fight is dangerous for Wilder, he is a dreadful boxer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 Joseph Parker is live on Sky Sports 3 at 11am today if anyone fancies watching some live boxing with their corn flakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 4 hours ago, leemond2008 said: Joseph Parker is live on Sky Sports 3 at 11am today if anyone fancies watching some live boxing with their corn flakes How is this guy a world champion. AJ would deal with him quite comfortably. Heck even Bellew would fancy his chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted May 6, 2017 Moderator Share Posted May 6, 2017 i wasn't at all impressed with Parker - slow, ponderous, unimaginative. He can forget his AJ payday I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted May 6, 2017 Author Share Posted May 6, 2017 (edited) Two years ago I thought Parker would be a genuine player, as a 23 year old he had a unique skillset, very fast hands and explosive combinations, he could do this in the pocket as well, which was more 'unique' at heavyweight where closer quarter fighting had long died a death as the super heavyweights took over the division (Vitali Klitschko aside). It's clear to me, having turned 25 this year, he hasn't really developed much at all. It's good that his level of competition has been stepped up, Carlos Takam and Andy Ruiz were very respectable opponents for a young fighter, technically he has a better resume than Deontay Wilder and before Joshua fought Klitschko, you could make the same argument about him as well (although Parker hasn't looked anywhere near as impressive). His fundamental problems are that he doesn't establish the jab well enough, he has a decent jab, but doesn't work off it effectively, and that's a real prerequisite in this division. His power increasingly doesn't look great, more of a 'hit's hard enough to keep you honest' puncher rather than a knockout puncher. He also isn't particularly intelligent, doesn't have much of a plan and doesn't really adjust to what's in front of him, if plan A doesn't work he tends to box in a pretty confused manner. I do believe that his trainer Kevin Barry is a problem. Whilst Barry is very much the 'go to guy' in NZ for a heavyweight boxer, I've never felt he's that good. He was long time trainer of David Tua he couldn't get Tua to be anything more than a one dimensional puncher, and in Parker you just see a very one dimensional boxer. A switch in trainer should help him but that's not going to happen. Edited May 6, 2017 by Dr_Pangloss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 (edited) He was fighting his ex sparring partner It was like an exhibition bout for him and a comfortable points win he didn't need to get out of first gear Edited May 6, 2017 by AshVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted May 6, 2017 Author Share Posted May 6, 2017 Some fairly decent action on later. I have a feeling Chavez is going to give Canelo a lot of problems, I just do not see being the cake walk a lot are making out. Chavez made weight, will rehydrate to close to 190lbs and has looked more motivated for this fight than I have ever seen him before. Undercard is decent as well, Matthysse vs Taylor should be a fun fight. Lucas is definitely on his way out but can still punch, Emmanuel Taylor is a solid boxer and doesn't shy away from action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 I think bellew will beat Parker personally. If I was him go for that and then wilder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted May 6, 2017 Author Share Posted May 6, 2017 1 minute ago, Demitri_C said: I think bellew will beat Parker personally. If I was him go for that and then wilder Parker will smash him up. Don't be fooled by the Haye fight. Parker is a real heavyweight who isn't in his mid 30s with an exploding achiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted May 7, 2017 Author Share Posted May 7, 2017 (edited) Something really fishy about the Canelo fight. Chavez looked gun shy throughout, barely threw a punch and barely tried, and then, a fight with Golovkin was announced immediately after, GGG entering the ring to his theme on some WWE shit. I'd be inclined to check Chavez' bank account after this. Matthysse looked really good last night, Taylor is not a bum but Lucas made him look like one. Whilst at 34, I do not expect Matthysse to be a serious player at welterweight, he's never the less a dangerous opponent for most and I wouldn't be surprised if he picks up one of the minor titles. Edited May 7, 2017 by Dr_Pangloss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 GGG vs canelo is a very interesting one. Tough one yo call but i am backing GGG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Brumerican said: Quality, I do like Furys playful character I have to admit. He looks really out of shape though. I really want to see him fight Wilder before AJ. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Spence vs Brook coming in next few weeks. Spence looks really arrogant hope Kell beats him but its going to be a tough fight for Brook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted May 15, 2017 Author Share Posted May 15, 2017 It's a great fight for boxing, a real 'pick em' fight IMO. Spence is a real talent and a rising tide. A lot is made of Spence's resume being weak, but outside of Shawn Porter (and if you count getting the dog shit beaten out of you by Golovkin as meaningful), Brook's isn't better. Spence is very strong, very aggressive, and punches with power and accuracy with both hands, he can also box if he wants to. His tactic should be to jump on Brook because IMO Brook doesn't handle effective, front foot aggression that well, as we saw in the first Carsen Jones fight and in spots against Porter. Spence's weaknesses is that he can often be open to counters when coming forward and Brook is an excellent counter puncher. Genuinely can't wait for this, it's a rare fight between two top welterweights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Lock Fury and Wilder, together in a phone box ,and Wilder would still have difficulty laying a glove on Fury . An unfit, unfocused Fury would give both Wilder and AJ problems. For me , I'd rather see AJ fight Wilder ,career wise it makes more sense, maybe business wise too, giving AJ the chance to shine in front of an American audience on a hot , Las Vegas, desert night , whilst , hopefully pounding to defeat, on his very own doorstep, the big American hype, that is, Deontay Wilder. Forget Fury for the time being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 I'm also looking forward to seeing the Brook fight, although I'm a little apprehensive concerning Brooks task in making the weight ,sometimes a fighter drains himself that much in an attempt to make weight, that come fight night the energy tank is empty . I'm thinking of a drained Don Curry when he was soundly beaten by the brash , up and coming Lloyd Honeyghan. If Brooks isn't at his best then he's in for a hard night. Kell Brook at his peak and as a welterweight is a beast, and this is a significant step up for Spence ,this fight determines his whole future . The best welterweight performance I saw was when Don Curry dismantled Colin Jones in 6 rds at the NEC, and the way Spence is being hyped I'm expecting something very special from him . We've seen Yanks hyped up before , only for them to crumble in the moment , Jeff Lacey, anybody ? You have to respect Brook for not relinquishing the belt , fingers crossed ,he hasn't bit off more than he can chew . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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