MakemineVanilla Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 According to Encyclopaedia Britannica, the word woke has been "repurposed as a pejorative synonym for liberal or left-leaning". There seems to be a difference between Woke and Critical Race Theory. So choosing margarine on ecological grounds and not butter, to put on your scone, probably counts as woke and the claim that white people oppress all other races, and that "equity" is the solution, would probably come under the heading of CRT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Segundo Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 On 10/04/2024 at 16:21, bickster said: No, you're wrong, it is that simple On 14/04/2024 at 07:54, bobzy said: I was going to post something but how does one compete with debating skills like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted April 30 VT Supporter Share Posted April 30 7 hours ago, El Segundo said: I was going to post something but how does one compete with debating skills like this? Make sure you're right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 I see dreary Mark Lawrenson thinks he’s been sacked because of the BBC woke agenda, what with him being a white male. Nothing to do with him being an awful depressing pundit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bobzy Posted April 30 Popular Post Share Posted April 30 19 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: I see dreary Mark Lawrenson thinks he’s been sacked because of the BBC woke agenda, what with him being a white male. Nothing to do with him being an awful depressing pundit. The BBC (finally) woke up to how shit he is. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted April 30 Moderator Share Posted April 30 7 hours ago, El Segundo said: I was going to post something but how does one compete with debating skills like this? Yes because picking the end of a debate where it’s impossible to get any kind of logical common ground and where the one side is clearly wrong is the best point to highlight. The argument which was put forward that it was the “woke” agenda that created groups of people in society is clearly and obviously wrong, it’s not really worthy of debate. The argument iirc was I don’t do this so it’s the woke brigade that caused the groups. As the meme goes… prove me wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield Dean Posted April 30 VT Supporter Share Posted April 30 45 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: I see dreary Mark Lawrenson thinks he’s been sacked because of the BBC woke agenda, what with him being a white male. Nothing to do with him being an awful depressing pundit. Doesn't explain Danny Murphy though... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted April 30 VT Supporter Share Posted April 30 2 hours ago, Lichfield Dean said: Doesn't explain Danny Murphy though... Bald. Only there to keep up the folically challenges quota. More wokeness on display. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 3 hours ago, chrisp65 said: I see dreary Mark Lawrenson thinks he’s been sacked because of the BBC woke agenda, what with him being a white male. Nothing to do with him being an awful depressing pundit. Had every single white pundit been " fired" maybe he'd have a case , but clearly they just got rid of the shit ones. In 2022 , 43 % of players in the premier league were black , even allowing for language issues , I'd kinda expect Ex-player pundits to be representative of that rather figure rather than the population of the UK when selecting a panel of experts. Football has evolved , its only natural that pundits evolve too .. Ashley Williams who appears from time to time seems a natural in the role and more engaging than someone like Lawrence , I know he's not everyone's cup of tea but Micah Richards always makes me chuckle ,even if his football brain isn't as good as someone like Ian Wrights , but its also an entertainment business , and Richards certainly does that 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted April 30 Moderator Share Posted April 30 50 minutes ago, sidcow said: Bald. Only there to keep up the folically challenges quota. More wokeness on display. Alan She Ra! says hi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted April 30 VT Supporter Share Posted April 30 28 minutes ago, bickster said: Alan She Ra! says hi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted April 30 VT Supporter Share Posted April 30 5 hours ago, chrisp65 said: I see dreary Mark Lawrenson thinks he’s been sacked because of the BBC woke agenda, what with him being a white male. Nothing to do with him being an awful depressing pundit. Probably also something to do with him not playing football for 35 year's and him not really being relevant to most people watching today. I'm in my 40s but only know him as a (not very good) pundit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted April 30 Moderator Share Posted April 30 35 minutes ago, Rds1983 said: Probably also something to do with him not playing football for 35 year's and him not really being relevant to most people watching today. I'm in my 40s but only know him as a (not very good) pundit. it's a bit of both, I think - The BBC had 2 tasks really - to refresh their line up of talking people, to keep up with the modern game and also to adjust the balance of their team to (in BBC parlance) better represent the demographics of the audience and nation. So that meant hoofing a fairly average old white male pundit(s) and bringing in some younger, different race, different gender (sex?) pundits. If you're Mark Lawrenson and lack a tad in self awareness, then you might feel miffed, but really, no. He had a good run and was long past his best in the job. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMelvillan Posted Tuesday at 15:36 Share Posted Tuesday at 15:36 3 hours ago, blandy said: it's a bit of both, I think - The BBC had 2 tasks really - to refresh their line up of talking people, to keep up with the modern game and also to adjust the balance of their team to (in BBC parlance) better represent the demographics of the audience and nation. So that meant hoofing a fairly average old white male pundit(s) and bringing in some younger, different race, different gender (sex?) pundits. If you're Mark Lawrenson and lack a tad in self awareness, then you might feel miffed, but really, no. He had a good run and was long past his best in the job. If he didnt come across as hating everything about football he may have been retained. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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