A'Villan Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, fruitvilla said: We need more agnosticism! Had to google that term and I like what I see, because I feel your post is apt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Rugeley Villa said: I think you’re asking for perfection there, he’s not Jesus Christ No, he’s a scumbag to people he perceives as the enemy because they think different to him. I had a scroll down a single day of his twitter ramblings and he’s a nasty piece of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 34 minutes ago, A'Villan said: When I first encountered him I found him to be contentious almost for the sake of it, but now I see him as a very sincere man trying his utmost to spark awareness in a world that's losing touch. Oftentimes he speaks with more authority on matters than I think he should because while I appreciate his concerns and intent is from a heart that wants to contribute in a meaningful way, I don't think he's entirely across all the answers of the matters he speaks on. Which is great!! We learn by engaging what we don't know and seeing if we can't bring about greater understanding of what's true. Sitting on our hands and letting the experts and specialists do it for us is a sure way to see that society's skilled people become lesser available. Seriously? You genuinely believe that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Rugeley Villa said: Is every Christian conservative not a good person then? Well, put it this way, I'm pretty sure Jesus would have no time for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Seriously? You genuinely believe that? Yeah, I do. I see his being a clinical psychologist with a platform to exercise his views that he is better informed than most of us, as difficult at times, certainly when I feel he gets it wrong. I will credit him with what's highlighted though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 27 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: No, he’s a scumbag to people he perceives as the enemy because they think different to him. I had a scroll down a single day of his twitter ramblings and he’s a nasty piece of work. I’ve not seen his twitter feed I must say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 13 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Well, put it this way, I'm pretty sure Jesus would have no time for them. Correct he wouldn’t .The church is not the way he wanted his words taught . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 17 minutes ago, A'Villan said: Yeah, I do. I see his being a clinical psychologist with a platform to exercise his views that he is better informed than most of us, as difficult at times, certainly when I feel he gets it wrong. I will credit him with what's highlighted though. Yeah I'm sure it's nothing to do with making a ton of money from his cult like fans. Some of whom have been pretty threatening to those that criticise him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 People say he’s saved them from attempted suicide and has helped them with addiction and mental illness . I’m yet to hear someone say he drove them to suicide. The man is a god among men to some people and not all those people are right wing bigots of thickos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post limpid Posted September 18, 2023 Administrator Popular Post Share Posted September 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: The man is a god among men to some people This is one definition of a grifter. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: People say he’s saved them from attempted suicide and has helped them with addiction and mental illness . I’m yet to hear someone say he drove them to suicide. The man is a god among men to some people and not all those people are right wing bigots of thickos. Sounds like a cult 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted September 18, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 18, 2023 I bought his book after seeing one of his early interviews when he seemed fairly interesting and much better prepared than the journalist. The 1st chapter was about Lobsters which, apparently, if they don't get a mate the first time they try and chat up a lady lobster they end up at the bottom of the social ladder for all of their lives. It was absolute horseshit and had zero relevance for me as I have no wish to have sex with a lobster or any other crustacean for that matter. I didn't read anymore and threw the book away - it was all psuedo science/psycho BS. But it became obvious to me why he's become so popular with the incel crowd. And to those posters talking abut his compassion. I have seen (or endured) some of his videos where he laments the agony of young men he's supposedly treated who just want a girlfriend (although when he last practiced psychiatry who knows.) He always cries as if he is so sensitive and it is all so painful. It's a grift. He repeats the same role every time. He's a grifter and he's found his audience, the lines that work and the act that gets him the $$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 12 minutes ago, limpid said: This is one definition of a grifter. Never heard that word before until on this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted September 18, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 18, 2023 Just now, Rugeley Villa said: Never heard that word before until on this thread Trump is a grifter. Russel Brand is a grifter. Creating a personality cult around you where you and only you have all the answers therefore give me money/slash buy my merch and you will understand and be safe in the world. Peterson is a grifter. Or con-man is the old fashioned word. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 1 minute ago, TheAuthority said: Trump is a grifter. Russel Brand is a grifter. Creating a personality cult around you where you and only you have all the answers therefore give me money/slash buy my merch and you will understand and be safe in the world. Peterson is a grifter. Or con-man is the old fashioned word. Does he not offer a genuine service to people though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted September 18, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Rugeley Villa said: Does he not offer a genuine service to people though? Is Snake Oil of any use to anyone? I'm sure some who bought so thought that it was. In medicine it's called the placebo effect. If you believe it's good for you and you do it, then at least you think you're doing something positive. I don't know what he was like as a psychiatrist. Does he still do that. or is he just an alt-right talking head now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 11 minutes ago, TheAuthority said: Is Snake Oil of any use to anyone? I'm sure some who bought so thought that it was. In medicine it's called the placebo effect. If you believe it's good for you and you do it, then at least you think you're doing something positive. I don't know what he was like as a psychiatrist. Does he still do that. or is he just an alt-right talking head now? I believe he’s had a very positive effect on some people . I wouldn’t describe snake oil along side his professions, surely you have to acknowledge he’s a very intelligent man who’s genuinely tried to help people or does the other stuff get in the way of that . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted September 18, 2023 Administrator Share Posted September 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: I believe he’s had a very positive effect on some people . I wouldn’t describe snake oil along side his professions, surely you have to acknowledge he’s a very intelligent man who’s genuinely tried to help people or does the other stuff get in the way of that . That's how grifts / cons work. Take a little little bit of something real and turn it into something that it never was order to make money (or power). All cults start with a personality.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post juanpabloangel18 Posted September 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 18, 2023 Ah, JP: the incel professor. A sad indictment of the current lack of spiritual, intellectual and moral leaders in the English speaking world that so many people (men) idolise this disingenuous freak and genuinely think he is an intelligent person. Enjoy: 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitvilla Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Here's a lecture from Peterson ... The preceding lectures Ieft me disinterested or not agreeing. The subsequent lectures in this series are what I would want from a lecturer. And this is coming from someone who disagrees fundamentally with Peterson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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