Buffs Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 1 hour ago, avfc1982am said: Removing from the squad is ridiculous? We shouldn't be trying to punish the lad. At the end of the day he's struggling, and for whatever reason it isn't happening for him at the moment, but dropping him out the squad would be a horrendous thing for the club to do. Take him out the first 11, give a few weeks out the firing line, help him by all means to get confidence back. If it doesn't work out then fair enough. Dropping someone from the squad though is not the way to handle players unless they're being punished. You’re correct, dropping from the squad is harsh but he needs some time out of the team to recapture his confidence. As I said, I’m sure there’s a player there. It does worry me that he doesn’t even appear to be able to control a football at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigy1874 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 For me, the worry is that that yesterday was probably the worst we have seen him and that was in his 'preferred position'. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 The alarming thing for me is his awareness of runs happening around him is miles off the pace… never links up with ollie the way our other attacking players do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 3 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Generally agree, but Trez holds a bit of cult status for me. For what he lacked elsewhere, he made up for with genuine effort, passion, and as mentioned, extremely crucial goals. Love Trez . Fair enough, really not my kinda player! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted December 4, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 4, 2023 4 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Generally agree, but Trez holds a bit of cult status for me. For what he lacked elsewhere, he made up for with genuine effort, passion, and as mentioned, extremely crucial goals. Love Trez . This! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 54 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Fair enough, really not my kinda player! Im not exactly trying to say I'd have Trez or a Trez level player here now mate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grantholtgolazo Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 One positive knock on effect of our success is a patience with players that I don’t recall as much in the past. When results were spotty at best most posters here were far quicker to judge new players, we’re now seeing a kinder, gentler villa fan which is a positive development. I have been far from impressed but believe he could still come good. I do question when attempting to play a player into better form where the line is drawn-concerning for me that lately the more he plays the worse his form has looked. Is playing him to improve him for the future worth potentially missing contributions in the here and now from our other options? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Anyone remember Mido? Starting to get a bit of that vibe around Zaniolo. Not the later career Mido that gave up and became fat and lazy, but the late AJAX period Mido who got a few injuries, started doubting himself and became frustrated to the point that nothing really worked. Both massive talents but can't get it to work. Both a bit of a hotheads. Would be a real shame if Zaniolos career went down a similar path to how Mido's did 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilbertoAVFC Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 40 minutes ago, grantholtgolazo said: One positive knock on effect of our success is a patience with players that I don’t recall as much in the past. When results were spotty at best most posters here were far quicker to judge new players, we’re now seeing a kinder, gentler villa fan which is a positive development. Hmm... News to me if that's the case 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 1 hour ago, sne said: Anyone remember Mido? Starting to get a bit of that vibe around Zaniolo. Not the later career Mido that gave up and became fat and lazy, but the late AJAX period Mido who got a few injuries, started doubting himself and became frustrated to the point that nothing really worked. Both massive talents but can't get it to work. Both a bit of a hotheads. Would be a real shame if Zaniolos career went down a similar path to how Mido's did Poor guy will end up having to play at West Ham, Wigan, Boro and Barnsley Hoping for him that doesnt happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 5 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Generally agree, but Trez holds a bit of cult status for me. For what he lacked elsewhere, he made up for with genuine effort, passion, and as mentioned, extremely crucial goals. Love Trez . i like to run around with genuine effort and pashun! can i be your cult hero too? pretty please!? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, MaVilla said: i like to run around with genuine effort and pashun! can i be your cult hero too? pretty please!? Have you scored back post winners to keep us up and send us to Wembley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, Zatman said: Have you scored back post winners to keep us up and send us to Wembley i have had plenty of scores at the......back post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted December 4, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 4, 2023 now ramsey is fit we probably won't see a huge amount from him in the next 2 games. then we have a pretty much meaningless game vs a poor bosnian team that we can use to have another look at him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 4 hours ago, Buffs said: You’re correct, dropping from the squad is harsh but he needs some time out of the team to recapture his confidence. As I said, I’m sure there’s a player there. It does worry me that he doesn’t even appear to be able to control a football at the moment. How do you propose he recaptures his confidence if taken out of the team? Star City five-a-side league? Watching videos of his Galatasary glory days? Play as himself on FIFA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 14 minutes ago, Don_Simon said: How do you propose he recaptures his confidence if taken out of the team? Star City five-a-side league? Watching videos of his Galatasary glory days? Play as himself on FIFA? Give him one of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Remember when Bailey used to be the scapegoat? Is it Zaniolo’s turn? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Just now, duke313 said: Remember when Bailey used to be the scapegoat? Is it Zaniolo’s turn? Scapegoat for what? We are flying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 12 minutes ago, sne said: Scapegoat for what? We are flying. Haven’t you heard? Or season is over because we drew away at Bournemouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Just now, duke313 said: Haven’t you heard? Or season is over because we drew away at Bournemouth. Shame that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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