Dodgyknees Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 3 hours ago, HKP90 said: So when are we going to see Man City punished then? How it works: - They are fined and deducted 20 points. - Further rules put in place after so no other clubs do the same, with the threat of relegation for those who do. That way they can say they have done their job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted January 15 VT Supporter Share Posted January 15 3 minutes ago, Dodgyknees said: How it works: - They are fined and deducted 20 points. - Further rules put in place after so no other clubs do the same, with the threat of relegation for those who do. That way they can say they have done their job. I sincerely doubt Man City will be deducted 20 points. The authorities won't have the balls. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 39 minutes ago, The_Steve said: Crickets on those 115 charges for Man City. Not surprised about Forest tbh Difference is Everton and Forest have admitted that they're in breach of the rules. City will never Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chindie Posted January 15 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted January 15 Citeh also have vastly more crimes, going back 15 years, a number of which are far more complicated, and they've actively fought the cases with their bottomless lawyer funds, and been uncooperative with the case. We all know they're guilty as sin and their titles are all illegitimate and their entire club should be ground into dust, dropped into a volcano and the name scratched from history. Everton and Forest have admitted they broke the rules, they're (well, Everton so far) just arguing the punishment is unjust and, for the new charges, that they've already been punished so piss off. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanpablosaliceband Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 14 minutes ago, HKP90 said: I sincerely doubt Man City will be deducted 20 points. The authorities won't have the balls. I think it will be a lot worse than that and can see them being stripped of titles. And rightly so if found guilty. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 The league will probably want to strip them of titles but will need a watertight case to see off the appeal. City will kick into the financial long grass as best they can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 hour ago, Hank Scorpio said: I'll bet nothing comes of Man City. Can't damage the premier league brand. I'll be amazed if they get punished properly. Are City that important to the PL? United, Liverpool, Arsenal and probably even Chelsea have much bigger fan bases. Kicking one of them out would damage the “PL Brand”, kicking City out might sting for a season or two, but they’d quickly be forgotten IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 I had no idea Forest had brought 43 players since winning promotion and with no major sales beyond Brennan Johnson none of this is surprising Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheVilla26 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Well, between FFP & VAR the powers that be have truly ruined football. I get FFP but you can't have one rule for certain clubs then Man City doing what they like and getting away with it. Not surprised Forest have broken it, they signed about 350 players in the last 2 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 11 minutes ago, duke313 said: Are City that important to the PL? United, Liverpool, Arsenal and probably even Chelsea have much bigger fan bases. Kicking one of them out would damage the “PL Brand”, kicking City out might sting for a season or two, but they’d quickly be forgotten IMO. Having 6/7 titles wiped from history would look dreadful. Its like Lance Armstrong and his Tour de France wins 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 So still nothing for Man City then. It's blatantly obvious the premier league want the same 6 teams to win and cannon fodder for them to beat. These rules help keep that. It's nothing to do with protecting teams from going under. That's just the excuse they use. If we get top 4 this season we will just get picked apart next season and this season will be the only time we do it. The rules make it so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 hour ago, HKP90 said: I sincerely doubt Man City will be deducted 20 points. The authorities won't have the balls. What will City do that Everton won’t? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 42 minutes ago, UpTheVilla26 said: I get FFP but you can't have one rule for certain clubs then Man City doing what they like and getting away with it. City are getting charged for things other than FFP breaches going back over a decade. The date for hearing has been set 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheVilla26 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Thing is, like it's already been alluded to, City will tie it up in knots in the courts and drag it out for years. I doubt we will see an outcome either way within the next 5 years at least. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calcifer Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 12 minutes ago, Genie said: What will City do that Everton won’t? City owners could pay an absolutely huge fine of astronomical proportion! Everton couldn't. Money talks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 2 minutes ago, calcifer said: City owners could pay an absolutely huge fine of astronomical proportion! Everton couldn't. Money talks Juventus were relegated with points deduction. 115 charges will not be a simple fine. It will be points deduction. I'd bet money on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 31 minutes ago, calcifer said: City owners could pay an absolutely huge fine of astronomical proportion! Everton couldn't. Money talks They wouldn’t give one club a points penalty, and another club a financial penalty (especially such a rich club). There would be uproar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 City and Everton’s FFP/PSR breach is not the same. Everton simply spent more than they were allowed to. City were cooking the books to make it look like they could spend more, a far more serious and complex. And City need to be proven guilty, which takes a lot longer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 2 hours ago, HKP90 said: I sincerely doubt Man City will be deducted 20 points. The authorities won't have the balls. They'll be deducted as many points as possible without it meaning anything If they finish 19 points ahead of 5th place they'll be deducted 18 points For the PL in an ideal world they finish 2nd but 20+ points off 6th and the PL get that extra CL place (22 points in it last year) then the huge looking punishment actually does sweet **** all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 32 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: Juventus were relegated with points deduction. 115 charges will not be a simple fine. It will be points deduction. I'd bet money on it That was for a criminal charge, several people also went to prison, it goes above football Man City have not been charged with fraud, they've cheated but they've not broken the law Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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