JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 1 hour ago, Alakagom said: "Football club rebrands are notoriously tricky to pull off. In Aston Villa’s case, Heck says fans complained they had not been adequately consulted on the move to a circular logo." I don't mind Heck that much, but every time he speaks to anyone outside it's just full of lies and deceit " That's my story and I'm sticking to it " 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 1 hour ago, Alakagom said: "Football club rebrands are notoriously tricky to pull off. In Aston Villa’s case, Heck says fans complained they had not been adequately consulted on the move to a circular logo." I don't mind Heck that much, but every time he speaks to anyone outside it's just full of lies and deceit OMG he literally says the opposite of reality every single time he opens his mouth 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Townsend Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 He's unreal with just saying whatever gets him out of a hole in the moment! I thought I was going mad here last December when I heard him tall about why he wasn't doing the North stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 (edited) Tbf we were shoe horned by Purslow who was the driver if I’m not mistaken going back to the round badge - the survey was pointed so you’d vote in a specific direction so I’d agree the initial survey wasn’t adequate then and we got the choice of two to choose from - circle or some pseudo gaslamp one. Plenty of people on here criticised the initial survey and its limitations Edited May 20 by thabucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mark Albrighton Posted May 20 VT Supporter Share Posted May 20 (edited) 51 minutes ago, thabucks said: Tbf we were shoe horned by Purslow who was the driver if I’m not mistaken going back to the round badge - the survey was pointed so you’d vote in a specific direction so I’d agree the initial survey wasn’t adequate then and we got the choice of two to choose from - circle or some pseudo gaslamp one. Plenty of people on here criticised the initial survey and its limitations In fairness there was a lot of people wanting a round badge, pre Purslow. On here and away from this site. I wanted a round badge for a while. Whether he became aware of that and saw it as a potential easy win, winning him favour from fans…I don’t know. I accept it’s possible. But I don’t agree with the round badge is purely a Purslow driven thing. I know I remember an interview with Wyness in which he was asked questions that had been put together from supporters and he was asked about whether we could go back to the round badge. And if I recall correctly, he talked about the difficulty in simply implementing it. Edited May 20 by Mark Albrighton 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 (edited) 2 hours ago, Made In Aston said: Don’t even know what to say after reading more nonsense from him. If he was called Pinocchio he could build a whole new stadium with his nose. Edited May 20 by ender4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepal_villan Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 (edited) I was in one of many focus groups during the process that led to "Purslow's" round badge. Specifically, mine consisted of international supporters. Claiming there was a lack of consultation is flat out wrong. PS - there was a diversity of opinions in the focus group. I think spelling out the club's full name - Aston Villa - was the only real consensus. Edited May 21 by nepal_villan 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Townsend Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 (edited) Good to see some facts in this thread and that we aren't on board with the 'post truth' turn we seem to be going in. Edited May 20 by Captain_Townsend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted May 21 VT Supporter Share Posted May 21 Well if we wanted a devious liar to generate more money for the club we've made a great appointment. Drop shadow still looks bollocks, he talks bollocks, there's a theme... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG_Villa_Fan Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 2 minutes ago, romavillan said: Well if we wanted a devious liar to generate more money for the club we've made a great appointment. Drop shadow still looks bollocks, he talks bollocks, there's a theme... True, but he's been the dog's bollocks when it comes to new commercial deals , to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted May 21 VT Supporter Share Posted May 21 Just now, BG_Villa_Fan said: True, but he's been the dog's bollocks when it comes to new commercial deals , to be fair. Yeah, he's been good for the balance sheet if you want to look at it like that. Although, he's done it at the same time as we've qualified for the conference league and then qualified for the Champions League. You could argue that someone who wasn't a pathological liar could also have ridden that wave of success to signing some big deals... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 41 minutes ago, romavillan said: a pathological liar I think you’ve just hit the nail on the head. If everyone just remembers these three words every time you see a statement or video from Heck in the future, it will all make perfect sense from now on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Townsend Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 1 hour ago, BG_Villa_Fan said: True, but he's been the dog's bollocks when it comes to new commercial deals , to be fair. You would hope we are getting better deals now as a club finishing in top 7, top 4 than we were as a newly promoted club trying to establish ourselves in the league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Captain_Townsend said: You would hope we are getting better deals now as a club finishing in top 7, top 4 than we were as a newly promoted club trying to establish ourselves in the league. Exactly, it's all good ripping the Castore contract to shreds but what would he have done in the same circumstances if they were offering the most money? No way he could've just got adidas to decide to pay a record deal out of nowhere for a lower mid-table team two years ago, even if he is supposedly a God of renegotiating deals. From what I have read, the figures are lower than been reported, plus we would have had to pay off the deal(s) as well. Edited May 21 by sharkyvilla 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarnikjak Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 8 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said: Exactly, it's all good ripping the Castore contract to shreds but what would he have done in the same circumstances if they were offering the most money? No way he could've just got adidas to decide to pay a record deal out of nowhere for a lower mid-table team two years ago, even if he is supposedly a God of renegotiating deals. From what I have read, the figures are lower than been reported, plus we would have had to pay off the deal(s) as well. What figures have you read and where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_AA_786 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Don't think he had to use all his Business acumen to get an increase on the Castore deal. Not like didn't have improved performances on the pitch or one of the owners has a sizeable stake in Adidas to help with that... His integrity and honesty matter a bit more to me than a few extra million in sponsorship money so its safe to say he's just come across as a b3ll3nd through all this badge/branding malarkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 6 minutes ago, Czarnikjak said: What figures have you read and where? Only what the new Villa guy in the Athletic (Tanswell is it?) saying that it's not the £20m sponsorship deal that was reported and the Adidas one too. I'm not totally dismissing Heck's influence either, it's not all black and white but the main thing is Unai's brilliance taking the club to another level. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarnikjak Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 8 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said: Only what the new Villa guy in the Athletic (Tanswell is it?) saying that it's not the £20m sponsorship deal that was reported and the Adidas one too. I'm not totally dismissing Heck's influence either, it's not all black and white but the main thing is Unai's brilliance taking the club to another level. He is lucky that with Unai we are riding high on the pitch. As soon as that ends, Heck with his nonsense will be hounded out by the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post allani Posted May 21 Popular Post Share Posted May 21 3 minutes ago, Czarnikjak said: He is lucky that with Unai we are riding high on the pitch. As soon as that ends, Heck with his nonsense will be hounded out by the fans. Which will be a massive mistake. He's been appointed by Wes because Wes values him and his skills. Heck is accountable to NSWE and NOT to a small / vocal group fans who will have a very limited insight into how well (or not) he is doing his job and how successful he is in making the deals he's making and are (to a large degree) upset over the replacement of a badge that they liked but which quite frankly was completely unfit for purpose. If NSWE think he's underperforming then they've shown that they'll get rid of him and replace him with someone else. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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