Keyblade Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 I'm dying, the whole time I thought the outrage was because it was meant as a nod to the LGBTQ flag (still dumb but it at least makes sense for them to be mad about), but it turns out it's not even that? It's a callback to an old training kit What are these people even mad about anymore? Grown men being outraged over a flag. I thought that was a uniquely American malaise. Jfc. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 7 hours ago, Zatman said: I dont think the creative change considered how many gammons that would get offended I genuinely dont think a pro American company like Nike would offend on purpose that might make a backlash at home Supposedly the first draft of the design had the flag as a rainbow colours and the FA knocked it back. Surely they must know En-gur-land football fans are not known for their progressive politics? It was an entirely predictable result. I don’t really know how such a big company like Nike could make such a mess of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Keyblade Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 If it was really about changing the flag they wouldn't be harping about "woke" this and "woke" that. The reason they are is because they actually think it's the bisexual pride flag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted March 24 Author Share Posted March 24 2 minutes ago, Keyblade said: If it was really about changing the flag they wouldn't be harping about "woke" this and "woke" that. The reason they are is because they actually think it's the bisexual pride flag Only one way to be sure Schedule a friendly in Qatar and see if they allow the flag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 24 VT Supporter Share Posted March 24 2 hours ago, Keyblade said: If it was really about changing the flag they wouldn't be harping about "woke" this and "woke" that. The reason they are is because they actually think it's the bisexual pride flag Correct. I made this point a few pages back. If it was a solid colour nobody would care. It’s because it vaguely resembles and LBGT rainbow. They’ll say it isn’t, but we all know that it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 38 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Correct. I made this point a few pages back. If it was a solid colour nobody would care. It’s because it vaguely resembles and LBGT rainbow. They’ll say it isn’t, but we all know that it is Not the LBGT rainbow but the Telegraph was suggesting it resembles the trans and lesbian flags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 24 VT Supporter Share Posted March 24 38 minutes ago, LondonLax said: Not the LBGT rainbow but the Telegraph was suggesting it resembles the trans and lesbian flags. Yep, which is the real issue. People don’t care about the flag being a different colour. They care about it being a bit gay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted March 24 Author Share Posted March 24 (edited) 18 hours ago, Lichfield Dean said: And yet, I would still know that was England, weirdly enough. Kinda resembles the Icelandic flag more thou. There was a lack of imagination when the nations up north made their flags Edited March 24 by sne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 6 hours ago, LondonLax said: Not the LBGT rainbow but the Telegraph was suggesting it resembles the trans and lesbian flags. Looks nothing like either. Closest thing it resembles is the bisexual flag. If Nike have reiterated that it's nothing to do with any of that, but to celebrate the last and only England team to win anything, I'm perplexed as to why the outrage doesn't stop there. Unless the implication is they're lying and are secretly trying to turn everyone gay? In which case, nobody would have even known about the resemblance unless they made such a big fuss about it in the first place. Can't say most people are super well versed in the various pride flags. People would have heard "1966 training kit" and said oh okay and kept it moving. Because it's a bloody football shirt, and there are countless more important things in life to spend calories on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 If it was put on the kit and they said "we've done this to celebrate the last and only England team to win anything by using the colours from an old training kit" or whatever, then I don't think anyone would have batted an eyelid. I think the thing that has got everyone's backs up is the poorly worded "playful approach aimed to 'unite and inspire' the nation" some people find the suggestion that the standard England flag isn't "uniting and inspiring" offensive and then you have the other people who believe that there is an agenda behind everything and that there is some subliminal "pride" messaging going on. I for one couldn't give a shite about it, I haven't bought an England shirt since 1998 and I haven't barely watched any England games in years so they could play in a kit with Barney the Dinosaur wearing a pink tutu on the sleeve and it wouldn't bother me, my interest in England pretty much stops at checking if any of our players might have got injured during a game (if they play) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 6 minutes ago, leemond2008 said: If it was put on the kit and they said "we've done this to celebrate the last and only England team to win anything by using the colours from an old training kit" or whatever, then I don't think anyone would have batted an eyelid. I think the thing that has got everyone's backs up is the poorly worded "playful approach aimed to 'unite and inspire' the nation" some people find the suggestion that the standard England flag isn't "uniting and inspiring" offensive and then you have the other people who believe that there is an agenda behind everything and that there is some subliminal "pride" messaging going on. I for one couldn't give a shite about it, I haven't bought an England shirt since 1998 and I haven't barely watched any England games in years so they could play in a kit with Barney the Dinosaur wearing a pink tutu on the sleeve and it wouldn't bother me, my interest in England pretty much stops at checking if any of our players might have got injured during a game (if they play) It's literally been taken by racists. If anyone is angry about that then they're idiots. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 16 hours ago, sne said: Kinda resembles the Icelandic flag more thou. There was a lack of imagination when the nations up north made their flags They were all Christian nations at that time and adopted the Christian cross. Thankfully they are mostly secular nowadays, hence their progressive attitudes. Their flags remain out of tradition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted March 25 Author Share Posted March 25 1 hour ago, GlobalVillan said: They were all Christian nations at that time and adopted the Christian cross. Thankfully they are mostly secular nowadays, hence their progressive attitudes. Their flags remain out of tradition. Yeah I know, I'm from Sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 2 minutes ago, sne said: Yeah I know, I'm from Sweden There we go then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 The **** St George's cross flag was Italian before it was English anyway. The divs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Surely the price should be the most outrageous thing about the shirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted March 25 Moderator Share Posted March 25 15 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: Surely the price should be the most outrageous thing about the shirt You're right. It should. I can understand the player version being that price. It costs what it costs - they've got to make the best kit for the athlete. The replica prices are outrageous though. Still, it'd probably be about £40 if it wasn't caked in leftist iconography. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Germany changing to Nike in 2027 Thats going to feel weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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