thunderball Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, JPJCB said: The fees are v small particularly for JPB which suggests to me that the board are rushing a sale so that we can do some more business this transfer window with the FFP increased capacity. Even if JPB wants leave/have first team football ordinarily you’d surely loan him so that he can be in the shop window and fetch a higher fee next year. The only reason to sell now is if we want to buy now as well It suggests to me no club is really interested or rates him as highly as some fans do. If we didn’t have the PL distortion field, perhaps that’s his true value? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Bringing in £20m from Davis, Philogene and Ramsey will give us more financial freedom this month. Then if we can get another £20m for Archer that would be great. Hopefully a big end to the window. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Transfer window has never been so unpredictable for us at this stage, by now we usually have a pretty good idea on what's going to happen in terms of knowing where we're going to strengthen or attempt to, but as it stands at the moment any number of different things could happen, we could still make an handful of signings yet, and seems an whole bunch could leave yet too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Folski Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 I’d love Eze 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Folski said: I’d love Eze We missed the boat there, he should have been our Grealish replacement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezzaleed Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 36 minutes ago, thunderball said: It suggests to me no club is really interested or rates him as highly as some fans do. If we didn’t have the PL distortion field, perhaps that’s his true value? hang on is this the same philogene that looked every part a first team starter in preseason and had Liverpool fishing around for him. how is £5m a good price. if there's a buy back then fair enough but if not £5m is a joke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted August 21, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 21, 2023 Isn’t it the last year of JPB’s contract, we can’t really loan him out as then he’ll just be free, if we sell it has to be now or he’ll be gone for nothing (and minus 9 months of wages) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, tezzaleed said: hang on is this the same philogene that looked every part a first team starter in preseason and had Liverpool fishing around for him. how is £5m a good price. if there's a buy back then fair enough but if not £5m is a joke https://x.com/greggevans40/status/1693534371259527354?s=61&t=7BneOdoj-6Dz_z6GoxSNNw Seemingly Emery wanted him in the squad this campaign, but Philogene wanted minutes. We have a buy back. Can’t argue with the market? Is he out of contract at the end of this year? It also suggests we need better? Edited August 21, 2023 by thunderball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted August 21, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, useless said: Philogene is insisting he wants to go and play, so the choice is to either loan him or sell him, loan would be risky as all it would take is a season plagued by injury which for him wouldn't be uncommon, meaning he wouldn't be able to get game time, and would therefore lose value, or selling him for six million with buy-back so we will get a decent chunk of money for him however well he does at Hull, and also still have the possibility of bringing him back. Not really sure why people think £6m is such a low fee, it isn't, he did very well second half of last season, but also he's been plagued by injuries and doesn't have much time left on his Villa deal, if you asked me at the start of the summer how much we could get for him with buy-back I would have guessed around two or three million, and would be doing well to get more than five million without buy-back. Do we have buy back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, PieFacE said: £6m for Davis and Philogene isn't so bad imo. Neither have really performed that well in their Championship loan spells. It instead great when we would have got £15m for Davis alone if those idiots Watford had gone up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 4 hours ago, villan95 said: So we've gone from getting £15M for Keinan to £1M in 12 months. Bloody Watford! Probably through promotion away so they didnt have to pay it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 5 hours ago, Jas10 said: Are we raising funds to make a statement signing to elevate the team… before the window closes? Certainly feels like it… I expect several additions but just feel like a real “big signing” is on the way… to take us to that next level… If we lose archer and JPB you’d assume we have signings coming in 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 So Baleba is going to Brighton for £25.6mill and they’re also now linked with Ernest Nuamah… Two youngsters who will no doubt double or treble in value. Anyway back to Villa … Gone off the Torres signing for no real reason and thinking it will be Felix or a surprise big name addition … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 17 minutes ago, IrishVilla10 said: If we lose archer and JPB you’d assume we have signings coming in Yeah, there are definitely signings coming in and Unai and Monchi have covered it in their comments… I just wonder if there’s one “top class addition” rather than players to fill gaps or provide competition/cover. A signing that will elevate us even further… We’ll just have to wait and see… not long left now… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jas10 said: Yeah, there are definitely signings coming in and Unai and Monchi have covered it in their comments… I just wonder if there’s one “top class addition” rather than players to fill gaps or provide competition/cover. A signing that will elevate us even further… We’ll just have to wait and see… not long left now… I’d be shocked if we haven’t tried or are trying for felix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Torres will unlikely move having played and scored for Barca yesterday. Felix just feels like it won’t happen and any deal would have no future as he see himself only destined for Barca. Goncalves is still available, as is Vlahovic and Chiesa. Maybe we are putting as much money in the pot to land a top drawer signing. We still haven’t replaced Ings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Nuno Tavares looks to be in the Emery mould, would be quite happy if we ended up with him as a 23y.o. understudy to Moreno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 11 minutes ago, thunderball said: Torres will unlikely move having played and scored for Barca yesterday. Felix just feels like it won’t happen and any deal would have no future as he see himself only destined for Barca. Goncalves is still available, as is Vlahovic and Chiesa. Maybe we are putting as much money in the pot to land a top drawer signing. We still haven’t replaced Ings. He only played 5 minutes though and stayed on the bench first match so looks like he's available to me. Even then you could say Digne is set to leave us but playing and Archer came on too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 41 minutes ago, IrishVilla10 said: I’d be shocked if we haven’t tried or are trying for felix I’m sure we’ve enquired again, since we were so interested in January and Unai is obviously a fan… But I’m not bothered about him or ever saw that as a realistic move tbh… there are alternatives… and possibly better ones who would impact us more effectively… as everyone has been made well aware of… my dream is Chiesa but it’s another I don’t expect (though feels more likely, attainable and affordable compared to Felix… maybe Zaniolo can change his mind he himself may turn out to be a star too…). Links to Goncalves have been equivalent to tumbleweed for a while now… The name doesn’t matter… it’s the quality and effect that player can have that matters most… Unai’s favoured and highest rated targets… I guess, what I was trying to say was… will we bring in any more arguably “transformative” signings such as Pau and Diaby? Rather than players like, I dunno Acuna for instance, who would more “help out” and bolster the squad… We can’t really rule anything out and I don’t think anyone outside of the club actually has the foggiest in terms of how much we have available in our transfer kitty… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anything11 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 JPB fee will be low due to buyback. same as AJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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