bobzy Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 10 hours ago, useless said: We signed a lot of players when we were promoted but a number of them were players that we had on loan in the championship, and we still used a lot of our championship players, our first line-up that season featured Taylor, Mings, Elmohamady, Hourihane, Grealish, McGinn, and El Ghazi, that' seven players that were with us in the championship, and I think most of those saw plenty of game time as the season progressed. Forest have taken it to an whole other level, they've signed not just a new team, but a new squad, barely feels like the same team I watched at the end of the last season to see how Davis was getting on. In fairness to Forest, they lost 5 first team players immediately on promotion (Spence, Davis, Zinckernagel, Garner, Lowe), lost Brice Samba (first choice keeper) over contract dispute and have also cleared out a further bunch of first team squad players who they’ve deemed not good enough (Figueredo, Grabban, Lolley, Bong, da Costa etc) so even to stand still on pure squad numbers, they’d have needed to sign at least 13 players. 3 of those signed have been immediately loaned out. And then you’ve got the little gambles of additional quality that they’re hoping will keep them up (Lingard on free, Henderson, Lodi and Bade on loans). It’s a vast squad turnover, but it was needed rather than just buying for the sake of it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 12 hours ago, ender4 said: Why? Bascially doing the same as Villa did when we got promoted, but with 3 years worth of football inflation since then. We spent around £140m when we came up, that must be £200m in footballing terms now. We brought in half of what they have and they are dishing out huge wages. Plus the owner is a scumbag of the highest order. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 (edited) It's the not the net spend, it's the quantity of players they've brought through, and the wages and what they will be saddled with if they go down. Sure, we spent big but we had billionaire owners, a big ground, the players we bought were in a age bracket, price bracket, and wage bracket. If we went down it was a decent squad on managable wages provided we bounce back. What Forest have done is absolutely wreckless. They don't have a billionaire owner. If they go down they are ****. Completely and utterly ****. It's ridiculous dealings EDIT : ...and not only is the owner not a billionaire, he doesn't strike me as the calm measured intelligent type like our owners and CEO. He strikes me as a crook, a moron and dodgy as heck. Forest will be buzzing, but my God the red flags are everywhere. Edited September 2, 2022 by rodders0223 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 31 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: What Forest have done is absolutely wreckless. They don't have a billionaire owner. If they go down they are ****. Completely and utterly ****. It's ridiculous dealings EDIT : ...and not only is the owner not a billionaire, he doesn't strike me as the calm measured intelligent type like our owners and CEO. He strikes me as a crook, a moron and dodgy as heck. Forest will be buzzing, but my God the red flags are everywhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daft Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 42 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: It's the not the net spend, it's the quantity of players they've brought through, and the wages and what they will be saddled with if they go down. Sure, we spent big but we had billionaire owners, a big ground, the players we bought were in a age bracket, price bracket, and wage bracket. If we went down it was a decent squad on managable wages provided we bounce back. What Forest have done is absolutely wreckless. They don't have a billionaire owner. If they go down they are ****. Completely and utterly ****. It's ridiculous dealings EDIT : ...and not only is the owner not a billionaire, he doesn't strike me as the calm measured intelligent type like our owners and CEO. He strikes me as a crook, a moron and dodgy as heck. Forest will be buzzing, but my God the red flags are everywhere. Good point, but to be fair, nice guys finish last. A crook could probably get us a CL title by being shady as **** and bending and even breaking the rules. So that might actually be in their favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, rodders0223 said: It's the not the net spend, it's the quantity of players they've brought through, and the wages and what they will be saddled with if they go down. Sure, we spent big but we had billionaire owners, a big ground, the players we bought were in a age bracket, price bracket, and wage bracket. If we went down it was a decent squad on managable wages provided we bounce back. What Forest have done is absolutely wreckless. They don't have a billionaire owner. If they go down they are ****. Completely and utterly ****. It's ridiculous dealings EDIT : ...and not only is the owner not a billionaire, he doesn't strike me as the calm measured intelligent type like our owners and CEO. He strikes me as a crook, a moron and dodgy as heck. Forest will be buzzing, but my God the red flags are everywhere. Why are they ****, though? I don't know what the wages involved are but they've lost a massive portion of their squad and then replaced it, based on Premier League monies. A lot of the transfers are add-on heavy (presumably based on survival) and mostly involve younger players with resale value. I just can't see it being an all or nothing scenario with regards to the welfare of the club long term. (But their owner is definitely a shady character) Edited September 2, 2022 by bobzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Forest do seem to have spent their windfall like a lottery-winner and I think it would have been wiser to set aside some funds for January, when they might have different specific needs. The main thing I think about is whether Steve Cooper can get so many new players playing his way in such a short time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted September 2, 2022 Author Share Posted September 2, 2022 (edited) Edited September 2, 2022 by Demitri_C 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Bournemouth 2 - Aston Villa 0 Forest 2 - Bournemouth 0 (at half time) Says it all tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted September 3, 2022 Author Share Posted September 3, 2022 1 hour ago, MaVilla said: Bournemouth 2 - Aston Villa 0 Forest 2 - Bournemouth 0 (at half time) Says it all tbh. Spoke to soon my friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Again, you can't read too much into one game in football, it doesn't work like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Doing a Fulham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rjw63 Posted September 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 3, 2022 1 hour ago, MaVilla said: Bournemouth 2 - Aston Villa 0 Forest 2 - Bournemouth 0 (at half time) Says it all tbh. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Club about to be liquidated when they get relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 5 hours ago, MaVilla said: Bournemouth 2 - Aston Villa 0 Forest 2 - Bournemouth 0 (at half time) Says it all tbh. I've learnt my lesson before - never post anything before or during a game 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Shame 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted September 4, 2022 Author Share Posted September 4, 2022 They are in massive trouble Im expecting cooper to get the ax in next 5 if this continues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 On 04/09/2022 at 11:56, Demitri_C said: They are in massive trouble Im expecting cooper to get the ax in next 5 if this continues Yes, I bet he's fuming and didn't want half these players or even has a clue what to do with them, where to put them and how to play now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted September 5, 2022 Author Share Posted September 5, 2022 1 hour ago, rodders0223 said: Yes, I bet he's fuming and didn't want half these players or even has a clue what to do with them, where to put them and how to play now. That squad is beyond bloated how the **** did they think this was a good idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pas5898 Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 On 04/09/2022 at 11:56, Demitri_C said: They are in massive trouble Im expecting cooper to get the ax in next 5 if this continues Owner is definitely erratic. I reckon if they are anywhere near bottom 6 come October Cooper is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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