TheMelvillan Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Also the argument that it's less likely that he will suffer another unfortunate major injury by law of averages. Like if you are scared of flying you should sit next to someone who has survived s plane crash - cos the chances of them being in a second plane crash are infinitesimal. Granted, not a perfect analogy but still... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Zatman said: Another in the overhyped midfield department, never seen anything that impressive from him for the price, like Bissouma I wouldn't pay more than 15 million for. Looked out of his depth at the Euros playing with and against better players. I even seen him get dominated in the Championship Leeds are crap defensively without him. Don’t think he’s worth £60 million or whatever fee Leeds thinks he’s worth. Not that I want to sign him anyway but you gotta give him some credit. He is a solid defender. Edited March 12, 2022 by Aston_Villan4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 11 minutes ago, VillaParkAvenue said: Not that minor? He had surgery on the hamstring and there’s was talk about surgery on the shoulder as well because it’s troubled him since last year,m (don’t know if they done it yet) Shoulder and Hamstring are different parts of the body. What is a worry is recurring injuries, like Grealish shin problems, or a recurring leg injury etc.. Anyone can injure their shoulder or tear a hamstring. What the medical department need to assess of any potential signing is recurring injuries, not one off injuries. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 1 minute ago, TheMelvillan said: Also the argument that it's less likely that he will suffer another unfortunate major injury by law of averages. Like if you are scared of flying you should sit next to someone who has survived s plane crash - cos the chances of them being in a second plane crash are infinitesimal. Granted, not a perfect analogy but still... Is it the same plane that already crashed that's been rebuilt they are flying on? Some injuries certainly increase the risk of picking up additional injuries down the line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 He's not a big enough upgrade on what we have, especially when you consider the price Leeds would charge. He's not great on the ball and unless he has a release fee if Leeds go down he's not worth it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Didn’t he win our player of the tournament in the Euro’s? Or Englands player of the year? (I actually forget what he won exactly!) I can understand why you’d criticise Phillips and everybody’s opinion is welcome, I just find it odd you’ve chosen his form in an England shirt as a negative. I think he’s been very good for our national team. From an outsider he looked poor, every first touch seemed to end in a tackle. Was a game England were pushing for a goal and it was laughable him trying to create stuff near the opposition box. It was like watching Nakamba on the ball Edited March 12, 2022 by Zatman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted March 12, 2022 Author Share Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Zatman said: From an outsider he looked poor, every first touch seemed to end in a tackle. Was a game England were pushing for a goal and it was laughable him trying to create stuff near the opposition box. It was like watching Nakamba on the ball https://www.englandfootball.com/articles/2021/Sep/01/20210109-kalvin-phillips-named-england-mens-player-of-the-year-2021 Maybe I’ve been watching different matches to you! Phillips and Bissouma would massively improve us in the middle I feel. If we had both, we could play a double pivot and 3 in front (a system I much prefer to the one we play). That said, I love what Gerrard is doing so he can play whatever formation he likes as long as we keep winning! Edited March 12, 2022 by Delphinho123 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Just now, Delphinho123 said: https://www.englandfootball.com/articles/2021/Sep/01/20210109-kalvin-phillips-named-england-mens-player-of-the-year-2021 BuT He LOokS CrAp. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Didn't Maguire get into the team of the tournament? He's an absolute disgrace for Manure. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Delphinho123 said: https://www.englandfootball.com/articles/2021/Sep/01/20210109-kalvin-phillips-named-england-mens-player-of-the-year-2021 Mason Mount came 2nd and he had a poor Euros by his standards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, sne said: Didn't Maguire get into the team of the tournament? He's an absolute disgrace for Manure. He may be crap at Manure but he was solid for England during Euros. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Aston_Villan4 said: He may be crap at Manure but he was solid for England during Euros. Yeah he was fine. Just saying that performing for the national side doesn't always translate to being great for your club side. Fwiw I think Phillips is good, but not for the money he'd cost. Also think they'd need to be relegated for him to move, at least to us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Phillips and Bissouma would massively improve us in the middle I feel. If we had both, we could play a double pivot and 3 in front (a system I much prefer to the one we play). The rapist and the copper thief! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Aston_Villan4 said: He may be crap at Manure but he was solid for England during Euros. England play 7 defenders and a goalkeeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 34 minutes ago, Zatman said: Another in the overhyped midfield department, never seen anything that impressive from him for the price, like Bissouma I wouldn't pay more than 15 million for. Looked out of his depth at the Euros playing with and against better players. I even seen him get dominated in the Championship This is rubbish, looked good in most games for England and then one particularly poor game. Remember this was for a team that went all the way to the final; if he was out of his depth he wouldn't have played at all and England likely would not have got to the final. Look I'm not a massive fan (it might be his haircut) but he's decent and would potentially strengthen our midfield and add a bit of bite. In regard to his injury record I think being at Bodymoor and at a far superior backroom team to guide, strengthen and improve him Villa could actually see him improve. I'm kind of on the fence with Phillips but I thought I'd add some objectivity for a change! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 1 minute ago, sne said: Yeah he was fine. Just saying that performing for the national side doesn't always translate to being great for your club side. Fwiw I think Phillips is good, but not for the money he'd cost. Also think they'd need to be relegated for him to move, at least to us. Agreed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, Aston_Villan4 said: He may be crap at Manure but he was solid for England during Euros. Absolutely he was very good, Manure under Ole and Ralf are a shambles by comparison. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Zatman said: England play 7 defenders and a goalkeeper Wait. They used a goalkeeper? That’s news to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, Aston_Villan4 said: Wait. They used a goalkeeper? That’s news to me. I dont think he is an actual goalkeeper more of a baby t-rex 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Just now, Zatman said: I dont think he is an actual goalkeeper more of a baby t-rex 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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