Delphinho123 Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share Posted January 26, 2022 This idea that he plays for Juve and therefore walks into our team is laughable tbh. They’re 5th in a division weaker than the PL. They’re probably the equivalent to Spurs or Arsenal in the PL if not worse. Would Oliver Skipp and Harry Winks start for us? Would Lokonga and Xhaka start for us? Hell, would McTominay and Fred start for us? Im sure people will put forward a case that they would but come on, really? The fact that he starts for Juve doesn’t bother me at all. He’s not a defensive midfielder and even his last manager spoke publicly about it. I just don’t think he’ll improve us and I think we’ll be trying to further improve on the position again in 12 months time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rolta Posted January 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Delphinho123 said: Hopefully not, no! You've said this and similar multiple times already. We get it! You don't want a player you've seen play maybe once at best and you're making sure everybody knows! 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PaulMcGrath_5 Posted January 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2022 Just now, Rolta said: You've said this and similar multiple times already. We get it! You don't want a player you've seen play maybe once at best and you're making sure everybody knows! Just logged back on for the first time since early evening last night and it's the same thing being repeated on loop by the same person. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: I just don’t think he’ll improve us New info. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted January 26, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: This idea that he plays for Juve and therefore walks into our team is laughable tbh. They’re 5th in a division weaker than the PL. They’re probably the equivalent to Spurs or Arsenal in the PL if not worse. Would Oliver Skipp and Harry Winks start for us? Would Lokonga and Xhaka start for us? Hell, would McTominay and Fred start for us? Im sure people will put forward a case that they would but come on, really? The fact that he starts for Juve doesn’t bother me at all. He’s not a defensive midfielder and even his last manager spoke publicly about it. I just don’t think he’ll improve us and I think we’ll be trying to further improve on the position again in 12 months time. I think it’s more about the qualities of the player than the team. We finished 11th last year but Grealish would have got in to most PL starting line ups… and with Buendia, he got promoted with Norwich but improved our side massively. Not saying that’s the case here but I think the quality of the player rather than the side they’ve come from is the most important 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSvillain Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 If Pep and their scouting team identified enough to bid £40m for him then our scouting team has identified enough in him, then that's enough for me 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 33 minutes ago, romavillan said: Based on? A seemingly obsessive insistence that the player is shite, worth less than a packet of polos, and unworthy of the mighty Aston Villa. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted January 26, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 26, 2022 9 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: This idea that he plays for Juve and therefore walks into our team is laughable tbh. They’re 5th in a division weaker than the PL. They’re probably the equivalent to Spurs or Arsenal in the PL if not worse. Would Oliver Skipp and Harry Winks start for us? Would Lokonga and Xhaka start for us? Hell, would McTominay and Fred start for us? Im sure people will put forward a case that they would but come on, really? The fact that he starts for Juve doesn’t bother me at all. He’s not a defensive midfielder and even his last manager spoke publicly about it. I just don’t think he’ll improve us and I think we’ll be trying to further improve on the position again in 12 months time. Yeah like they didn't beat Chelsea recently or anything did they? People get a bit carried away with just how far ahead the Premier League might be. Fact is we don't have a 6, so a decent 6 starts for us. Bentancur is more than just a decent 6. Bentancur is better than either of the Spurs players, Lokonga is more of an 8, Xhaka would probably start as a 6 for us to be honest as would McTominay whilst Fred is more forward thinking. As for the bold bit, he absolutely is a defensive midfielder, he played there for Boca and he does for Uruguay and he's said it's his natural position. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 18 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: This idea that he plays for Juve and therefore walks into our team is laughable tbh. They’re 5th in a division weaker than the PL. They’re probably the equivalent to Spurs or Arsenal in the PL if not worse. Would Oliver Skipp and Harry Winks start for us? Would Lokonga and Xhaka start for us? Hell, would McTominay and Fred start for us? Im sure people will put forward a case that they would but come on, really? The fact that he starts for Juve doesn’t bother me at all. He’s not a defensive midfielder and even his last manager spoke publicly about it. I just don’t think he’ll improve us and I think we’ll be trying to further improve on the position again in 12 months time. He is a defensive midfielder though. Re-watch Sundays game and his standout attributes were passing, tackling and reading of the game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 minute ago, romavillan said: Yeah like they didn't beat Chelsea recently or anything did they? People get a bit carried away with just how far ahead the Premier League might be. Fact is we don't have a 6, so a decent 6 starts for us. Bentancur is more than just a decent 6. Bentancur is better than either of the Spurs players, Lokonga is more of an 8, Xhaka would probably start as a 6 for us to be honest as would McTominay whilst Fred is more forward thinking. As for the bold bit, he absolutely is a defensive midfielder, he played there for Boca and he does for Uruguay and he's said it's his natural position. Snap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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allani Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: This idea that he plays for Juve and therefore walks into our team is laughable tbh. They’re 5th in a division weaker than the PL. They’re probably the equivalent to Spurs or Arsenal in the PL if not worse. Would Oliver Skipp and Harry Winks start for us? Would Lokonga and Xhaka start for us? Hell, would McTominay and Fred start for us? Im sure people will put forward a case that they would but come on, really? The fact that he starts for Juve doesn’t bother me at all. He’s not a defensive midfielder and even his last manager spoke publicly about it. I just don’t think he’ll improve us and I think we’ll be trying to further improve on the position again in 12 months time. And this completely undermines your views on the whole matter. Juve are the equivalent of Spurs or Arsenal???? Give me a ****ing break. They have won Serie A in 9 of the last 10 seasons, finished 4th last season (missing second by 1 point) and have got to at least the quarter finals of the Champions League 4 times in the last 7 years. The only English club with a better record in terms of quarter final appearances or better over the same period is Manchester City (and only Real Madrid, Barcelona and Bayern Munich can match them in terms of non-English clubs). At the very worst they are the equivalent of Chelsea and yes every single midfield player in the Chelsea first team would walk into our starting XI without even a second thought. Edited January 26, 2022 by allani 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Xela Posted January 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2022 I'm sure some people just don't like the price. If he was costing £35m then they'd be more comfortable with it. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 27 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: This idea that he plays for Juve and therefore walks into our team is laughable tbh. They’re 5th in a division weaker than the PL. They’re probably the equivalent to Spurs or Arsenal in the PL if not worse. Would Oliver Skipp and Harry Winks start for us? Would Lokonga and Xhaka start for us? Hell, would McTominay and Fred start for us? Im sure people will put forward a case that they would but come on, really? The fact that he starts for Juve doesn’t bother me at all. He’s not a defensive midfielder and even his last manager spoke publicly about it. I just don’t think he’ll improve us and I think we’ll be trying to further improve on the position again in 12 months time. And how many of our players would walk into the Juventus team???? I'll give you a clue. The answer is 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted January 26, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, Xela said: I'm sure some people just don't like the price. If he was costing £35m then they'd be more comfortable with it. i really think that's a factor. 16m is such a small fee these days everyone's immediate reaction is "whats wrong with him?" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSvillain Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 10 minutes ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: Not sure this guy knows anything unfortunately... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: I think we’ll be trying to further improve on the position again in 12 months time. Isn't that the process though? We're not going to buy or attract top 4 players all the time. We finished 11th last year and we are 11th now. Its about improving our team and squad. Bentancur, from the stats provided, absolutely improves us in a position we are currently weak. He's a regular in a team far better than us and is a winner, which helps improve the culture at the club. Edited January 26, 2022 by Xela 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerryBarrPet Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 minute ago, MSvillain said: Not sure this guy knows anything unfortunately... And in turn why do you think this. All getting rather convoluted - ah well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSvillain Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, PerryBarrPet said: And in turn why do you think this. All getting rather convoluted - ah well. He's the 'throw a lot of shit at the wall and see what sticks' kind 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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