messi11 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 "Elite passer" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 As 'daft' as it is to take what's on a messageboard as gospel, you can't help but be a little concerned by those comments from fans that watch him all the time. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: As 'daft' as it is to take what's on a messageboard as gospel, you can't help but be a little concerned by those comments from fans that watch him all the time. Not really. Some of our fans think Keinan Davis is a goal scoring run away from being a 30 goal a season PL striker. I also thought that Borja Baston would be a good signing at the time for what we needed. Turns out some fans, myself included, know **** all from time to time. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post osmark86 Posted January 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, jacketspuds said: Not really. Some of our fans think Keinan Davis is a goal scoring run away from being a 30 goal a season PL striker. I also thought that Borja Baston would be a good signing at the time for what we needed. Turns out some fans, myself included, know **** all from time to time. Agreed. Going by some of the comments on our board Emi Buendia is shit, Mings is shit, Luiz is shit, McGinn is shi.... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted January 24, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 24, 2022 10 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: As 'daft' as it is to take what's on a messageboard as gospel, you can't help but be a little concerned by those comments from fans that watch him all the time. I was reading the juve forum about him last night and they are split, it's not all people saying he's shit at all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSvillain Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 According to fbref, bentancur has a pass completion % of 87.7, whereas Andrea Pirlo had 87% in the 11/12 season for juventus which rose to 89% the season after. I don't have the full figures on pass distance but I'm hoping Andrea was also held to account for awful pass accuracy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, jacketspuds said: Not really. Some of our fans think Keinan Davis is a goal scoring run away from being a 30 goal a season PL striker. I also thought that Borja Baston would be a good signing at the time for what we needed. Turns out some fans, myself included, know **** all from time to time. 10 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: As 'daft' as it is to take what's on a messageboard as gospel, you can't help but be a little concerned by those comments from fans that watch him all the time. Concerning. We have Juventus fans think he's terrible then Villa twitter accounts saying he be our greatest ever signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 minute ago, MSvillain said: According to fbref, bentancur has a pass completion % of 87.7, whereas Andrea Pirlo had 87% in the 11/12 season for juventus which rose to 89% the season after. I don't have the full figures on pass distance but I'm hoping Andrea was also held to account for awful pass accuracy This is the thing, Juventus fans are giving their opinions from their eyes. Villa analytics accounts are giving their opinion from comparing fbref stats without ever seeing the player actually play. This guy below for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 21 minutes ago, messi11 said: "Elite passer" I may be being dumb but why is the message board in English, I would assume it’s all in Italian or does it have an auto translate feature? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSvillain Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, messi11 said: This is the thing, Juventus fans are giving their opinions from their eyes. Villa analytics accounts are giving their opinion from comparing fbref stats without ever seeing the player actually play. This guy below for example. It's pass accuracy, it's a tangible, measurable metric, what are you even talking about? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, messi11 said: This is the thing, Juventus fans are giving their opinions from their eyes. Villa analytics accounts are giving their opinion from comparing fbref stats without ever seeing the player actually play. This guy below for example. Certain Juve fans have an opinion that is contradicted by actual evidence, basically. I know which one I'm rolling with. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted January 24, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, nick76 said: I may be being dumb but why is the message board in English, I would assume it’s all in Italian or does it have an auto translate feature? Dai, tutti parlano italiano oggi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eidolon Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, messi11 said: This is the thing, Juventus fans are giving their opinions from their eyes. Villa analytics accounts are giving their opinion from comparing fbref stats without ever seeing the player actually play. This guy below for example. Honestly I’d trust Gerrard and Lange’s opinions more than either ‘analytics’ twitter accounts or a few cherry picked opinions from fans who confirm your preconceptions (who btw we have no guarantee know the difference between their arse and their elbow) If there’s someone in the game today who knows what they are talking about when it comes to midfield play then it’s our manager and if he rates him then Im all in. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, romavillan said: Dai, tutti parlano italiano oggi. sono d'accordo, forse dovremmo provare questo forum in italiano edit: Google translate probably screwed me on this Edited January 24, 2022 by nick76 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 22 minutes ago, osmark86 said: Agreed. Going by some of the comments on our board Emi Buendia is shit, Mings is shit, Luiz is shit, McGinn is shi.... But Leroy Fer, Philip Billing and that ginger guy that played for Brentford were elite 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eidolon Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, nick76 said: sono d'accordo, forse dovremmo provare questo forum in italiano edit: Google translate probably screwed me on this 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsky_11 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 17 minutes ago, MSvillain said: According to fbref, bentancur has a pass completion % of 87.7, whereas Andrea Pirlo had 87% in the 11/12 season for juventus which rose to 89% the season after. I don't have the full figures on pass distance but I'm hoping Andrea was also held to account for awful pass accuracy Possibly need to factor set pieces into those kind of numbers, same with comparing Bentancur and Luiz. Guessing Bentancur's passing numbers are are not being brought down by taking corners and free kicks in forward areas, where Luiz and Pirlo's numbers are presumably affected by this to some degree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 16 minutes ago, nick76 said: I may be being dumb but why is the message board in English, I would assume it’s all in Italian or does it have an auto translate feature? Probably an English forum where fans have never actually seen him live 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post briny_ear Posted January 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2022 42 minutes ago, messi11 said: Where are you getting this from @Steero113 that Bentancur is an elite passer? Do I trust you who's never seen him play or the Juventus fans who have seen him play everyweek? Am I SERIOUSLY being asked to form an opinion on this player based on the views of someone called Elvin Zebra????? 1 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted January 24, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, nick76 said: Google translate probably screwed me on this no no, perfetto! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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