Zatman Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 1 minute ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Do you realise how weird the language is here, and how bad it looks? " His supporters ". You mean fans supporting the club we are all meant to be supporters of? People are actually angry that people aren't on the bite off nose to spite face bandwagon where we trash the new manager constantly and as a biproduct the club. You make it sound like some sort of far right organisation. It seems the language gets more and more extreme each time which does more to expose the posters agendas, than " His supporters " Nope, we are Aston Villa supporters and we will be. I would never criticise a player if they tried but if out of the depth I would say so like Bowery or Chris Herd and Gerrard is like this too Is a section of fans who adored Steve Bruce and hated the last manager. Since Gerrard came in they have tried bang every drum that he is some superior upgrade. I am not including you in this club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Zatman said: Nope, we are Aston Villa supporters and we will be. I would never criticise a player if they tried but if out of the depth I would say so like Bowery or Chris Herd and Gerrard is like this too Is a section of fans who adored Steve Bruce and hated the last manager. Since Gerrard came in they have tried bang every drum that he is some superior upgrade. I am not including you in this club He's a scouser who played for Liverpool - of course he's an upgrade ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I actually wasn't claiming to know what they are thinking mate. If you re read, I was basically trying to suggest that maybe a large part of the doom and gloom could be down to mindset from the beginning. Which filters through the fan base both online and in the stadium etc as obviously that's where the fans end up. I'm sure you know about the clichés of negative and positive thinking etc Whereas the attitude you approach certain things with can eventually cloud your judgement towards it all Don't get me wrong there are 1 or 2 here in Doha who aren't into Gerrard either, but guess what, under the surface, they'll admit that they are still bitter about losing Deano. I don't get the outrage. Gerrard knows he isn't overly popular with villa supporters he said so himself on his appointment. Let it roll - season almost over and Aug 6 (pre season and a window) isn't far away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: If you re read, I was basically trying to suggest that maybe a large part of the doom and gloom could be down to mindset from the beginning. but it could be just as simple as the football, the current form in 2022, the awful home form and largely unattractive football. If it was better then mindset would be changed despite original mindset. Even if it was original mindset and then it is re enforced with the football then it’s still Gerrard’s fault. Gerrard needs time but jeez he needs to do so much better both in terms of points and performances consistently next season until then fans will be concerned. Edited May 19, 2022 by nick76 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa_Vids Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, hippo said: He's a scouser who played for Liverpool - of course he's an upgrade ! He is the Aston Villa manager who came from Rangers. The truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, hippo said: He's a scouser who played for Liverpool - of course he's an upgrade ! He could be an upgrade or could tank the first 8-10 games of next season and be fired. Judge him like any manager when he has a core of his own players in place. What he inherited obviously wasn’t/isn’t good enough… think we can all agree the team lacks the right mix in midfield especially. Other than having some personal vendetta or agenda don’t see based on 27 games how you can be so against Gerrard with nothing to actually back it up IMO. Edited May 19, 2022 by thabucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, lexicon said: Are you really trying to defend someone by using the presidency of Donald Trump as an example of things working out? 'Don't worry guys, he could turn out to be just like the worst president of all time' I mean, that all depends on what you want to extract from my post... Your response is actually a great example of my reference to be honest. You've made up something and run with it because it's probably been repeated so many times, even though it's non fact. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsky_11 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, Zatman said: Is a section of fans who adored Steve Bruce and hated the last manager. Since Gerrard came in they have tried bang every drum that he is some superior upgrade. I am not including you in this club What even is this?! I’ve only seen Gerrard compared to Bruce as a criticism, and one that is way way off the mark imo. They are nothing alike. Bruce had nothing tactically and by all accounts training was a joke. Gerrard (or his team) have a pretty clear tactical setup that they are trying to implement here, while the impression I get of training and match prep is that it’s much more detailed and high level that. It has been previously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, thabucks said: He could be an upgrade or could tank the first 8-10 games of next season and be fired. Judge him like any manager when he has a core of his own players in place. What he inherited obviously wasn’t/isn’t good enough… think we can all agree the team lacks the right mix in midfield especially. Other than having some personal vendetta or agenda don’t see based on 27 games how you can be so against Gerrard with nothing to actually back it up IMO. As I've said Aug 6 is only a few weeks away.....tick tick... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Rustibrooks said: He does love to blame others. Roy Keane style 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 I get the overhaul vibes from this interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, tomsky_11 said: What even is this?! I’ve only seen Gerrard compared to Bruce as a criticism, and one that is way way off the mark imo. They are nothing alike. Bruce had nothing tactically and by all accounts training was a joke. Gerrard (or his team) have a pretty clear tactical setup that they are trying to implement here, while the impression I get of training and match prep is that it’s much more detailed and high level that. It has been previously. Got to disagree - the narrow formation and no wingers has many critics - even those pro Stevie G aren't totally on board with it. Where are you getting the impression about training and match prep. ? What does detailed and high level mean ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, tomsky_11 said: What even is this?! I’ve only seen Gerrard compared to Bruce as a criticism, and one that is way way off the mark imo. They are nothing alike. Bruce had nothing tactically and by all accounts training was a joke. Gerrard (or his team) have a pretty clear tactical setup that they are trying to implement here, while the impression I get of training and match prep is that it’s much more detailed and high level that. It has been previously. It seems that he has carried on his obsession with TRO being a supporter of Steve Bruce for a bit longer than most, and is now trying to create a new angle which suggests that everyone who isn't against Gerrard, was a huge Steve Bruce fan, and hated Dran Smith Even though, it's absolute nonsense I've said multiple time, some people are literally just making things up as they go along. All of our posts are public, so it's even more mental that people do things like this, when the statements can be debunked and verified ffs Some of us actually gave ALL the Managers time and support, until we didn't. * Except McCleish, of.course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustibrooks Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Zatman said: He does love to blame others. Roy Keane style I don’t know if you saw the thread, but he did say 'we' when discussing improving. Also wanting to give more to us fans, which he’s not wrong we do deserve more to be honest. It’s been a disappointing season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: It seems that he has carried on his obsession with TRO being a supporter of Steve Bruce for a bit longer than most, and is now trying to create a new angle which suggests that everyone who isn't against Gerrard, was a huge Steve Bruce fan, and hated Dran Smith Even though, it's absolute nonsense I've said multiple time, some people are literally just making things up as they go along. All of our posts are public, so it's even more mental that people do things like this, when the statements can be debunked and verified ffs Some of us actually gave ALL the Managers time and support, until we didn't. * Except McCleish, of.course. If you appoint another clubs once in a generation hero - don't expect to jump on board. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattAvfc92 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 I don’t blame Gerrard for us missing chances, it seems to be a feature of this season. i do think he’s an improvement on smith.. on paper we have 2 15+ goal a season strikers at the club. for one reason or another can’t hit a barn door with a saucepan this season.. Im intrigued to see what happens this summer; I just hope it doesn’t turn into Stevie G’s old boys club with Suarez in tow… no thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 In that interview, he says as good as what we all say. "much to inconsistent this season" and "not enough quality in the final 3rd". At least he knows. Gotta respect him for seeing what we see most games, so he knows what to do for next season. I'm positive, next season will be better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, hippo said: If you appoint another clubs once in a generation hero - don't expect to jump on board. Don't get me wrong, I get it, it's a bit weird and can feel off if you dwell on it, but in truth, it's probably childish How do players who are lifelong supporters of other clubs, go and play for rivals for example? I'm sure SG won't be the only Manager who's ever been in this situation, would be interesting to know actually. How does Deano Manage other clubs against us without batting an eyelid? The same way if Grealish plays on Sunday, he will have no qualms scoring a hat trick against us So yes, it's weird, but that's more an " us " problem, that it is an actual problem. IMO I'm pretty sure ideally, we'd all want a Villa man/legend to lead us to glory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, MaVilla said: I get the overhaul vibes from this interview. Not enough quality in the final third. That's on you mate because we keep hearing of despite the abundance of talent and goalscorers on the pitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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