Dodgyknees Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 I don't think it is about being dropped. It is simply that - for the first time - we will be able to fully rotate players to make sure we are competitive. Players in the modern game expect this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 9 minutes ago, Dodgyknees said: I don't think it is about being dropped. It is simply that - for the first time - we will be able to fully rotate players to make sure we are competitive. Players in the modern game expect this. Exactly. Play-off win assumed, we will have a minimum of 48 games next season. That will only go up with any wins in any competition, so realistically we're talking 55+. No player is playing 55 sets of 90 mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podster Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 10 hours ago, Kiwivillan said: Changing 5 of your starting 11 is stupid. That implies every signing you make is going to be an improvement and we know that isn't always the case. Konsa talked about one of the keys to Emery success was he made the team like a small family. This thread will just turn into bash current players bandwagon like many others It.s a hypothetical question, that's why I used the word if. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TomC Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 9 hours ago, Reivax_Villa said: I thought that this was a fair analysis, though I disagree on a couple points. 1. His point about Tielemans having played a lot of games over his career is valid, but we have enough midfielders that he won't have to play every game. 2. He assumes that Torres will knock Mings out of the side. As I mentioned a few posts back, I don't see that happening. I think they will both play. I'm not sure which of Mings and Torres you would play on which side. However, we had the same problem with Diego and Mings in the one match they played together last year since they're both left-footed and accustomed to playing LCB. Re-watching The Villa-Everton highlights just now (the full match isn't avilable anymore), it looks like Mings played LCB. Different manager now, and Mings-Torres is a different set of players, but something to keep in mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 minute ago, TomC said: I thought that this was a fair analysis, though I disagree on a couple points. 1. His point about Tielemans having played a lot of games over his career is valid, but we have enough midfielders that he won't have to play every game. 2. He assumes that Torres will knock Mings out of the side. As I mentioned a few posts back, I don't see that happening. I think they will both play. I'm not sure which of Mings and Torres you would play on which side. However, we had the same problem with Diego and Mings in the one match they played together last year since they're both left-footed and accustomed to playing LCB. Re-watching The Villa-Everton highlights just now (the full match isn't avilable anymore), it looks like Mings played LCB. Different manager now, and Mings-Torres is a different set of players, but something to keep in mind. FYI Carlos is right footed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomC Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, MaVilla said: FYI Carlos is right footed. You're correct, my mistake. What confused me is that he did usually play LCB at Sevilla even though he was right-footed. It makes sense that he was the one to switch to RCB being right-footed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted July 19, 2023 Author Share Posted July 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, TomC said: You're correct, my mistake. What confused me is that he did usually play LCB at Sevilla even though he was right-footed. It makes sense that he was the one to switch to RCB being right-footed. Yeah he's one of these anomaly left centre backs who is actually right footed! I can't see him dislodging mings or Pau on rhe left side now tbh. I thinknit will be Pau LCB, with one from mings, Carlos and konsa on the right side. Will be very interesting to see who partners Pau. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Remember this day, this is the day Blazin Squad crack America Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 20 hours ago, Reivax_Villa said: This is very poor and you'd expect them in a video about CBs to know we have Diego Carlos who we spent £26m on who is a dominant physical player. They never mention him so never mention a partnership of Torres and Carlos is the exact type of partnership that works in the data 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 I'd say something like this is probably our strongest team at the moment? (assuming we get Diaby) With the likes of Carlos, Konsa, Tielemans, Bailey, Buendia, Coutinho and Archer not even getting in! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 1 minute ago, villan95 said: I'd say something like this is probably our strongest team at the moment? (assuming we get Diaby) With the likes of Carlos, Konsa, Tielemans, Bailey, Buendia, Coutinho and Archer not even getting in! Looks about right. Probably another couple to join also. I think Mings may be the one that shifts over to the right in our strongest XI but we'll see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Just browsing other teams forums about the Diaby thing and came across what one thinks is Villa's best 11 Amusing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomC Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 9 hours ago, villan95 said: I'd say something like this is probably our strongest team at the moment? (assuming we get Diaby) With the likes of Carlos, Konsa, Tielemans, Bailey, Buendia, Coutinho and Archer not even getting in! Right players, but I don't see Unai changing last year's tactics much, so more like... Watkins-Diaby JJ-Doug-Kamara-McGinn Moreno-Mings-Torres-Cash ...in defense (4-4-2), and... Moreno-Watkins-Diaby JJ-McGinn Doug-Kamara Mings-Torres-Cash ...in attack (3-box-3). Tielemans could displace JJ if he has a good start to the season while JJ is hurt. The one thing that I did not know about Diaby until yesterday is that he's left footed. That would give us two left-footers on the right side (McGinn and Diaby) and a right-footed right back who is told not to attack (Cash or Konsa). The Hatchard interview on 1874 channel on YouTube suggests that Diaby has two capable feet and can cut outside rather than in, so here's hoping that he can provide some crosses from that side. Otherwise, opposing managers will try to clog the half-space to avoid the cut-in because they won't have to worry about a cross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 8 minutes ago, TomC said: Right players, but I don't see Unai changing last year's tactics much, so more like... Watkins-Diaby JJ-Doug-Kamara-McGinn Moreno-Mings-Torres-Cash ...in defense (4-4-2), and... Moreno-Watkins-Diaby JJ-McGinn Doug-Kamara Mings-Torres-Cash ...in attack (3-box-3). Tielemans could displace JJ if he has a good start to the season while JJ is hurt. The one thing that I did not know about Diaby until yesterday is that he's left footed. That would give us two left-footers on the right side (McGinn and Diaby) and a right-footed right back who is told not to attack (Cash or Konsa). The Hatchard interview on 1874 channel on YouTube suggests that Diaby has two capable feet and can cut outside rather than in, so here's hoping that he can provide some crosses from that side. Otherwise, opposing managers will try to clog the half-space to avoid the cut-in because they won't have to worry about a cross. Yeah I couldn't decide whether it would be Diaby or McGinn playing off Watkins (as McGinn did it at times last season) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troon_villan Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 8 hours ago, Kuwabatake Sanjuro said: Just browsing other teams forums about the Diaby thing and came across what one thinks is Villa's best 11 Amusing. It's not that wild other than Kamara. It's a bit of a Fifa 23 team in terms of ratings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 1 hour ago, villan95 said: Yeah I couldn't decide whether it would be Diaby or McGinn playing off Watkins (as McGinn did it at times last season) Not too far out but for Newcastle away I think Tielemans will start and we'll go more of a 4-3-3 to match them up. Will be an interesting watch, only issue is our left side is a bit decimated with Moreno and Ramsey out and those two completely destroyed Newcastle (with Ollie also drifting that side) in April so the triangle passing option won't be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Not too far out but for Newcastle away I think Tielemans will start and we'll go more of a 4-3-3 to match them up. Will be an interesting watch, only issue is our left side is a bit decimated with Moreno and Ramsey out and those two completely destroyed Newcastle (with Ollie also drifting that side) in April so the triangle passing option won't be there. Will be interesting to see where Tielemans fits in unless the plan is to change to 4-3-3 on a more regular basis. I did see something about Moreno maybe being ahead of schedule which would be a huge boost if he is fit for the start of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 1 hour ago, troon_villan said: It's not that wild other than Kamara. It's a bit of a Fifa 23 team in terms of ratings. Yeah Buendia is ridiculous for us on Fifa 23 lol. I've scored some audacious goals with him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burchy Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 I can see us using a 442, 4231 and 433 this season, especially as we’re likely to recruit more post Diaby (please make it official). Could we see another No10 come in to play the Odegaard role in a 433? We were linked to De Ketelare and Kudus previously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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