villan95 Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66612570 Former Premier League referee Mike Dean failed to correct a mistake in a match to save his friend and fellow official Anthony Taylor from extra "grief". "I said to Anthony afterwards: 'I just didn't want to send you to the screen after what has gone on in the game'. "I didn't want to send him up because he is a mate as well as a referee and I think I didn't want to send him up because I didn't want any more grief than he already had." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 I hope some action is taken after this statement. It's unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mic09 said: I hope some action is taken after this statement. It's unbelievable. He is retired, doubt anything can be done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted August 25, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 25, 2023 3 hours ago, villan95 said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66612570 Former Premier League referee Mike Dean failed to correct a mistake in a match to save his friend and fellow official Anthony Taylor from extra "grief". "I said to Anthony afterwards: 'I just didn't want to send you to the screen after what has gone on in the game'. "I didn't want to send him up because he is a mate as well as a referee and I think I didn't want to send him up because I didn't want any more grief than he already had." Confirms what everyone has suspected for ages. Refs protecting fellow refs. VAR needs to be independent and supervised. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyeddie Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 This is the major problem with the VAR system, the referees just don't want to be seen to be wrong, even when they are. Friends shouldn't come into it. Watch the DRS system in cricket, the evidence is presented and the umpire corrects their decision if necessary, no egos, it is just about getting the correct decision (admittedly cricket decisions are less subjective than football ones on the whole). Until the people in charge accept that their rules need to be abided by, the VAR system is doomed to be a cancer on the premier league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Zatman said: He is retired, doubt anything can be done Not necessarily against Dean - more of an official investigation into refereeing that can result in implementing changes to improve accountability. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 It's just brutal honesty, emphasising that referees are human and VAR is just as prone to human error. But nobody comes out of that looking good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mr_Dogg said: It's just brutal honesty, emphasising that referees are human and VAR is just as prone to human error. But nobody comes out of that looking good. It’s not human error, though, it’s not doing your job because another person “might feel bad”. It IS Mike Dean though, so who knows whether that’s true or whether he’s getting a talking point in the public domain for an upcoming book or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 1 minute ago, bobzy said: It’s not human error, though, it’s not doing your job because another person “might feel bad”. It IS Mike Dean though, so who knows whether that’s true or whether he’s getting a talking point in the public domain for an upcoming book or something. He made a bad decision, that is an error, he is a human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giro Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 Mike dean missing the attention after two matches into the season, who would of thought 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPJCB Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 There seems to be a trend of refs wanting to go public talking about theur career after retiring (see clattenburg as another example) but they don’t seem to realise that “confessions” such as these are a completely different nature to any other ex pro talking about controversies. They genuinely bring the game and it’s officiating into disrepute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyeddie Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 8 hours ago, Mr_Dogg said: He made a bad decision, that is an error, he is a human. An error is making a mistake, he knew at the time it was the wrong decision, but still continued with it. That is intentionally manipulating the situation for his own purposes. He's just admitted he's a cheat. I have no sympathy with him, if he disagreed with the process, he should have resigned. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 Again fifa showing how it should be done... With their 5 man VAR teams they used at the WC one man like Dean wouldn't have that power 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 26, 2023 Author Share Posted August 26, 2023 Dodgy red card and penalty because United are losing at OT. What’s new and what will ever change? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 They need to get ex players involved in the VAR process I think, it's worth it even as a trial. Not pundits like Rio Ferdinand, ones with an actual brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Corrupt corrupt corrupt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 15 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Dodgy red card and penalty because United are losing at OT. What’s new and what will ever change? In fairness both were given at 2-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Mic them all up. Let's hear them explain their **** ups. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 26, 2023 Author Share Posted August 26, 2023 It’s utterly bizarre. They’ve completely gone away with punishing any dives or cheating, so why would rashford not dive there if the risk/reward is penalty or literally nothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 2 hours ago, StefanAVFC said: Dodgy red card and penalty because United are losing at OT. What’s new and what will ever change? 1) No way the contact brought him down 2) No way he goes down if it’s not in the box 3) No way he goes down if the foul results in an indirect free kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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