villa4europe Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 because its black history month... its an interesting question and part of our and football's history, the 2 African guys in the late 70s for me in particular is interesting because I'd never heard of them until this thread 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sidcow Posted October 13, 2020 Author VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, paul514 said: Why single out players as being black, no one cares they are black unless they are racists. What a ludicrous statement. 1) It's not racist to talk about black people. Its racist to imply they are inferior or show bias against them because of their colour. 2) It's black history month and I'm trying to track the history of black players for Villa. So sick of this attitude that merely mentioning colour is racist. In fact so sick of general false accusations of racism. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 16 hours ago, PaulC said: Is the player on the right Alan Deakin John? Dennis Baker is on his right and Geoff Fellows on his left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 16 hours ago, PaulC said: Thought there were two I always thought that with a name like Mwila, Freddie was destined to play for the Villa. In fact this was his only game (against Blackpool 0-0), Emment Kapengwe played 3 games for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 I was just wondering what exactly is the criteria (terrible word for this topic, but please forgive my limited vocabulary) here? Does a player like Ulises de la Cruz count or is it players who are purely of African descent? Nobby Solano too? They're both South Americans but with the history of the Americas, it's quite possible they possess some African blood also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zhan_Zhuang Posted October 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2020 1901. Willie Clarke, first Black player for Villa and also the first non-white player to score a goal in a football league match. We all knew Black players are proudly synonymous with our glorious club but this is just an incredible story. Willie Clarke 9 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-k Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 On 12/10/2020 at 09:58, villa4europe said: Benin - gestede Ghana - adomah, ayew ivory coast - kodj Senegal - gueye, beye Egypt - elmo and trez Tanzania - samatta Zimbabwe - nakamba burkina faso - traore togo - salifou Cameroon - makoun, djemba djemba Morocco - hadji mali - sylla congo - samba, tshibola adama traore has ties to mali, ugo and gabby to Nigeria, benteke was born in zaire Zaire = DR Congo...Tshibola is from there as well, as was Bolasie. Nii Lamptey was also from Ghana, and Hassan Kachloul from Morocco. El Ahmadi also became a Moroccan international... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted October 13, 2020 Author VT Supporter Share Posted October 13, 2020 47 minutes ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: 1901. Willie Clarke, first Black player for Villa and also the first non-white player to score a goal in a football league match. We all knew Black players are proudly synonymous with our glorious club but this is just an incredible story. Willie Clarke Got quite a decent Wikipedia page too. Surprised more hasn't been made of this during black history month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: 1901. Willie Clarke, first Black player for Villa and also the first non-white player to score a goal in a football league match. We all knew Black players are proudly synonymous with our glorious club but this is just an incredible story. Willie Clarke Here is a photograph of him, following his move to Bradford: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Slightly off topic but the Magnificent Brazil 1970 is how a multicultural society should be represented. Aston Villa have a proud multicultural history and long may it continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 4 hours ago, sidcow said: What a ludicrous statement. 1) It's not racist to talk about black people. Its racist to imply they are inferior or show bias against them because of their colour. 2) It's black history month and I'm trying to track the history of black players for Villa. So sick of this attitude that merely mentioning colour is racist. In fact so sick of general false accusations of racism. Our facebook fan pages are another level of cringe on this. Sad to see we proper have Villa fans who seriously get wound up by black related Villa news. As far as ' wHaT iF wE dID A wHiTe vIlLa pLaYeRs mOnTH ' 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted October 13, 2020 Author VT Supporter Share Posted October 13, 2020 47 minutes ago, Sulberto21 said: Slightly off topic but the Magnificent Brazil 1970 is how a multicultural society should be represented. Aston Villa have a proud multicultural history and long may it continue. Jordan Ayew and Rudy Gestede celebrating Eid with locals in Aston. Probably the strongest link between the club and immediate locality in many years. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Sulberto21 said: Slightly off topic but the Magnificent Brazil 1970 is how a multicultural society should be represented. Aston Villa have a proud multicultural history and long may it continue. Great French teams too. To be fair the England teams is very multicultural as well. edit: took Germany a while but the team is a good representation of the country now. Edited October 13, 2020 by Vive_La_Villa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 23 hours ago, TheStagMan said: I don't think there is any doubt who the top one should be...... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Great French teams too. To be fair the England teams is very multicultural as well. edit: took Germany a while but the team is a good representation of the country now. Its also to do with the history of the country, England, France, Belgium, Portugal and Netherlands all had colonies up to about 80 years ago compared to Germany. Germany and the Scandinavian countries is through migration mainly from the last 40 or 50 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 19 hours ago, sidcow said: Ah Carlton Palmer and the kind of photo they used to use for the spot the ball competitions, to guarantee nobody ever won the cash! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 14 minutes ago, Zatman said: It must have taken hours to find a picture of him actually playing football. Bulletproof Salifou. Legend! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhatAboutTheFinish Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, It's Your Round said: Ah Carlton Palmer and the kind of photo they used to use for the spot the ball competitions, to guarantee nobody ever won the cash! Boring aside: Spot the ball was never actually where the ball was because it’s illegal to gamble on an event that has already happened. There was a panel of people who would decide where they thought it was...then it was closest to that! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 20 minutes ago, Zatman said: Its also to do with the history of the country, England, France, Belgium, Portugal and Netherlands all had colonies up to about 80 years ago compared to Germany. Germany and the Scandinavian countries is through migration mainly from the last 40 or 50 years That’s true but one of the big differences are South Asians don’t make it as footballers otherwise our national team would be even more representative of past colonialism. Like the cricket team is. But that’s a different topic altogether. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Zatman said: He is not impressed Edited October 13, 2020 by TheStagMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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