SeanVilla Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 This happened to Cash being linked with Athletico before signing his deal, Martinez also. If anything this is good news as it suggests a new deal is close to completion 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 hour ago, duke313 said: Not unless he signs a new deal, only got two years left. Yeah. £70m please. Don't want to pay? He stays. Very very valuable player. Never injured, works his balls off, still likely to improve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 I had no second thoughts previously, but is anyone slightly nervy about the Ollie situation? I legit think he is one of those players fans would realise was crucial after he left. Was unplayable during our purple patch this season, I'd love to see howamy points he's actually gotten us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Tomaszk said: Yeah. £70m please. Don't want to pay? He stays. Very very valuable player. Never injured, works his balls off, still likely to improve. Yeah? Then what? He runs his contract down and leaves for nothing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 2 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I had no second thoughts previously, but is anyone slightly nervy about the Ollie situation? I legit think he is one of those players fans would realise was crucial after he left. Was unplayable during our purple patch this season, I'd love to see howamy points he's actually gotten us. I think Mings, Martinez and Watkins are crucial to us....We would certainly notice when they are missing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 hour ago, duke313 said: Yeah? Then what? He runs his contract down and leaves for nothing? Maybe? Maybe not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 28 minutes ago, TRO said: I think Mings, Martinez and Watkins are crucial to us....We would certainly notice when they are missing. After Martinez I think Kamara is the next most crucial player imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Just now, nick76 said: After Martinez I think Kamara is the next most crucial player imo. I get that Nick....but we still faired ok ish, when he was out injured.....I think we would have struggled with any of those 3 out. I am not necessarily valuing the players per se.....just valuing their absence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, TRO said: I get that Nick....but we still faired ok ish, when he was out injured.....I think we would have struggled with any of those 3 out. I am not necessarily valuing the players per se.....just valuing their absence. We would definitely have missed Ollie last season - because we had no other "strikers" who could have scored goals and led the line. I think we would miss him less next season because we will have other options who can cover (to an extent) his absence. That said - I'd still prefer to have him than not have him. Edited June 17, 2023 by allani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted June 17, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 hour ago, nick76 said: After Martinez I think Kamara is the next most crucial player imo. Martinez then Mings for me followed by McGinn and Ollie. Kamara will be higher up that list if he plays a full season. Ollie would not suit Manure, that's for sure. He's not clinical enough for them and they would turn on him when they lose games. If they bid between £80 and £100m and Ollie ain't up for the villa project then off he goes. Tammy for £26m, before his injury, would have been a superb replacement. UTV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewieGriffin Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 minute ago, tinker said: Martinez then Mings for me followed by McGinn and Ollie. Kamara will be higher up that list if he plays a full season Off topic: Luiz has been criminally overlooked here. On topic: I'd rather Ollie stayed, he's improved as much as anyone under Emery, but if he doesn't want to stay/re-sign then I'd trust we could replace him. I bet he'd be immediately in the England squad if he moved... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 The point with 2 years left on his contract is that United can't wait 2 years for their striker. 2 years is fine for commanding the fee we want. He's also not the kind of player to kick up a fuss if we reject a 50m bid because we deem it too low. I imagine the contract we're offering him is commensurate with a player valued at over 70m, so he can't argue that angle either. If he leaves this window, it's for a huge fee. But I don't think he will be so kind of a moot point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I had no second thoughts previously, but is anyone slightly nervy about the Ollie situation? I legit think he is one of those players fans would realise was crucial after he left. Was unplayable during our purple patch this season, I'd love to see howamy points he's actually gotten us. These kind of stories are common during contract negotiations, so am less concerned about the rumours right now. Edited June 17, 2023 by Made In Aston 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frodo Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 As much as I think there are better footballers at the club I'd say Ollie is probably our most important player behind Martinez & there is a argument to say ollie is our most important player fullstop. Reason being he is one of very few strikers that gets into double figures every season he has played for us, his work rate is probably the best in the Premier league, hardly ever injured, I'd go as far to say he is priceless to us, because where & how much would you have to pay for another Ollie Watkins, strikers are at a premium these days, so hard to find specially with Ollie's numbers. Strikers with better numbers than him will go for close to £100 million & those strikers wouldn't be on our radar at this moment in time. You could take a punt on a striker from overseas but its a risk. So that's my point regards him probably being our most valuable player as he has guaranteed us goals in his 3 season with us & you'd bet he'd get the same amount again next season, goals wins you games as they say. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Come on Ollie, go and beat Gabby’s record and become our leading/record PL goal scorer. Much more suited and fitting for that status… He’s only going to get better under Unai. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) 20 hours ago, StewieGriffin said: Off topic: Luiz has been criminally overlooked here. On topic: I'd rather Ollie stayed, he's improved as much as anyone under Emery, but if he doesn't want to stay/re-sign then I'd trust we could replace him. I bet he'd be immediately in the England squad if he moved... If United come in for him.....you can safely say, its hard to replace players like Ollie. If United can't find strikers, its going to be tough for us too. Edited June 18, 2023 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 1 hour ago, TRO said: If United come in for him.....you can safely say, its hard to replace players like Ollie. If United can find strikers, its going to be tough for us too. Yep, without wanting to sound like I'm knocking him if utd come in for Ollie at £50m+ that's an indication of what the striker market is right now rather than what Ollie is He would be very hard to replace, even if you got a 15 goal striker you might not get the energy and the press I genuinely don't think we'd get a striker with a higher work rate 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 I would take Rodrigo, from Leeds to play alongside Ollie, or back up, if the deal was right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 20 minutes ago, TRO said: I would take Rodrigo, from Leeds to play alongside Ollie, or back up, if the deal was right. He’s on £100k per week mate at Leeds… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, nick76 said: He’s on £100k per week mate at Leeds… Ouch!.............but I guess any player of the calibre, we want, will be at least or want to be. Edited June 18, 2023 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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