sir_gary_cahill Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, VillaChris said: So are Sheffield United and Wolves a year ago. Yes staying up would be good but there was no law saying we couldn't push on to comfortable mid table which plenty of promoted sides are capable of. I agree with you but neither of those got to League cup final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 This might be a bit ambitious, I was amazed when Stoke City signed him but would anyone take Xherdan Shaqiri from Liverpool? He wasn’t getting game at Liverpool before the CoronaVirus, he’s only played 6 games in the league all season in the Premier League scoring 1 goal. I think a lot of clubs would be in for him though but I think it’s worth a shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 28 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: This might be a bit ambitious, I was amazed when Stoke City signed him but would anyone take Xherdan Shaqiri from Liverpool? He wasn’t getting game at Liverpool before the CoronaVirus, he’s only played 6 games in the league all season in the Premier League scoring 1 goal. I think a lot of clubs would be in for him though but I think it’s worth a shot Add Shaqiri to the Ryan Fraser school of assholes. Downed tools at Stoke and a lot of the senior players came out and said he didnt bother. Another prick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, VillaChris said: So are Sheffield United and Wolves a year ago. Yes staying up would be good but there was no law saying we couldn't push on to comfortable mid table which plenty of promoted sides are capable of. We had to make a lot of changes and unlike those two clubs, came up through the playoffs rather than automatically. Teams promoted from the play-off final, generally return from where they came, after just one season in the top flight. A better like for like comparison is Fulham (as has often been said). They were relegated in similar circumstances last season, to those that we faced in August. That's why most of us had accepted at the start of the season, that safety was our realistic target. We haven't quite yet, failed to achieve that goal. I agree that there wasn't any law that we couldn't have finished mid table, but that would have been beyond what most of us had thought likely. If we are still in the PL next season, then with some further team strengthening, a mid table finish should be our aim. For this season, 15th was the best I had anticipated. That could still possibly happen along with a cup final appearance, that few, if any of us had predicted. Edited April 26, 2020 by John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Zatman said: Add Shaqiri to the Ryan Fraser school of assholes. Downed tools at Stoke and a lot of the senior players came out and said he didnt bother. Another prick Downed tools? Shaqiri? I never had him down as a hard worker, when he’s on form, he’s irresistible 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 6 hours ago, sir_gary_cahill said: Downed tools? Shaqiri? I never had him down as a hard worker, when he’s on form, he’s irresistible No he isnt irresistible and fact is his attitude pissed off senior pros at Stoke because he is a rocket polisher 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 31 minutes ago, Zatman said: No he isnt irresistible and fact is his attitude pissed off senior pros at Stoke because he is a rocket polisher Why has he played for some of the biggest clubs in Europe then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 12 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: Why has he played for some of the biggest clubs in Europe then? Why was he never a starter at any of these clubs? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 (edited) Shaqiri would be a very good signing for us, far better than anyone we currently have in the creative positions other than Grealish, and would help us to have another player in the squad with big match experience. If we limit ourselves to only signing players that are liked by everyone then we're probably not going to get very far, besides as far as I'm aware Stoke fans will tell you that he was one of only an handful of players that tried for them in their relegation season, can't blame him for leaving once relegation was confirmed, only just realised he's still only 28 as well. That said I think I'd still prefer someone like Benrahama or Eze over him, probably have a better chance of signing one of those as well. Edited April 27, 2020 by useless 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 48 minutes ago, Zatman said: Why was he never a starter at any of these clubs? Because big clubs have a SQUAD of top quality players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: Because big clubs have a SQUAD of top quality players You said he was irresistible, if he was that good he be a regular starter for teams. Inter were quite shit when he was there as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, Zatman said: You said he was irresistible, if he was that good he be a regular starter for teams. Inter were quite shit when he was there as well I said when he’s on form he’s irresistible, it is up to his manager to get the best out of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 14 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: I said when he’s on form he’s irresistible, it is up to his manager to get the best out of him Heynckes, Mancini, Klopp and Guardiola must be all shit if they can't this irresistible form out of Shaqiri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Zatman said: Heynckes, Mancini, Klopp and Guardiola must be all shit if they can't this irresistible form out of Shaqiri You’re putting words in to my mouth, they are 4 top class managers, when on form, Shaqiri is a top class player, probably too good for us, it was just a suggestion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Dubious clickbait site no doubt but linked to young Dijon winger Mounir Chouiar. http://www.insidefutbol.com/2020/04/27/aston-villa-monitoring-ligue-1-winger-several-clubs-scouts-impressed-with-potential/457198/ Quote Aston Villa are one of the clubs who have shown an interest in Dijon’s 21-year-old winger Mounir Chouiar. And according to French sports daily L’Equipe, Aston Villa are amongst the clubs who are considering snaring him away from Dijon this summer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 18 minutes ago, thabucks said: Dubious clickbait site no doubt but linked to young Dijon winger Mounir Chouiar. http://www.insidefutbol.com/2020/04/27/aston-villa-monitoring-ligue-1-winger-several-clubs-scouts-impressed-with-potential/457198/ It’s only YouTube but he looks excellent, he’s all right foot but plays on the left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted April 27, 2020 Author Share Posted April 27, 2020 40 minutes ago, thabucks said: Dubious clickbait site no doubt but linked to young Dijon winger Mounir Chouiar. http://www.insidefutbol.com/2020/04/27/aston-villa-monitoring-ligue-1-winger-several-clubs-scouts-impressed-with-potential/457198/ Will he cut the mustard in the PL thou? Guess he could be a solid condiment to the squad, but he might have to play ketchup at the start of the season before he gets used to the tempo. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa Stu Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 13 hours ago, Zatman said: Add Shaqiri to the Ryan Fraser school of assholes. Downed tools at Stoke and a lot of the senior players came out and said he didnt bother. Another prick Does that mean we add players like Nakamba to that list, or is that ok because he managed to force a move? They are not the first players to try and force a move and won’t be the last. I will be honest I would take either of them as long as they wanted to come and play for us and put a shift in. Both would massively improve our lineup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted April 27, 2020 Author Share Posted April 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Villa Stu said: Does that mean we add players like Nakamba to that list, or is that ok because he managed to force a move? They are not the first players to try and force a move and won’t be the last. I will be honest I would take either of them as long as they wanted to come and play for us and put a shift in. Both would massively improve our lineup. Shaqiri also refused to play for his national side because he wasn't on the list of players who were considered to be made captain by the new Swiss manager. He is a petulant little diva. Certainly has quality but he is extremely hit and miss and very high maintenance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, Villa Stu said: Does that mean we add players like Nakamba to that list, or is that ok because he managed to force a move? They are not the first players to try and force a move and won’t be the last. I will be honest I would take either of them as long as they wanted to come and play for us and put a shift in. Both would massively improve our lineup. I think you are absolutely correct 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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