Moderator BOF Posted February 7, 2020 Moderator Share Posted February 7, 2020 With 4 days until the first official team launch of the season at Ferrari, it's high time we created this season's Formula 1 thread - to enormous cheers around the Off Topic arena. Don't mention it guys, really, it was my pleasure Firstly we'll start with the launch dates1. Ferrari 11th Feb 2. Renault 12th Feb 3. Red Bull 12th Feb 4. McLaren 13th Feb 5. Mercedes 14th Feb 6. Alpha Tauri 14th Feb 7. Racing Point 17th Feb 8. Williams 17th Feb 9. Haas 19th Feb 10. Alfa Romeo 19th Feb TEAM CHANGES The first thing you'll notice from the above list is no Toro Rosso, but someone called Alpha Tauri. Red Bull have renamed their junior team in-line with their Alpha Tauri fashion label. From the team changes point of view that's the only one on the grid this season. There are no engine supplier changes this season either. All the teams are using the same provider they had in 2019. DRIVER CHANGES It's a very stable grid from a driver line-up point of view as well. Only 2 changes and no swapping around. Esteban Ocon returns to the grid after his enforced hiatus and replaces the outgoing Nico Hülkenberg at Renault. The only rookie of the season, 24 year old Canadian, Nicholas Latifi comes in at Williams alongside George Russell, replacing Robert Kubica. Latifi came runner-up in F2 to Nyck De Vries last season (NDV heads to Formula E). Kubica will become reserve driver for Alfa Romeo. TEAM DRIVERS Mercedes Lewis Hamilton Valtteri Bottas Ferrari Charles Leclerc Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Max Verstappen Alexander Albon McLaren Carlos Sainz Jr. Lando Norris Renault Daniel Ricciardo Esteban Ocon Alpha Tauri Pierre Gasly Daniil Kvyat Racing Point Sergio Pérez Lance Stroll Alfa Romeo Kimi Räikkönen Antonio Giovinazzi Haas Kevin Magnussen Romain Grosjean Williams George Russell Nicholas Latifi CALENDAR The calendar is currently expanded to 22 races with a coronavirus-shaped asterisk beside the Chinese GP in April. New venues this season are Vietnam and a return of Zandvoort and the Dutch GP for the first time in 35 years. Very disappointingly there will be no German GP this year. 1. Australia Melbourne 15/03/2020 2. Bahrain Sakhir 22/03/2020 3. Vietnam Hanoi 05/04/20204. China Shanghai 19/04/2020 * (race postponed) 5. Netherlands Zandvoort 03/05/2020 6. Spain Barcelona 10/05/2020 7. Monaco Monte Carlo 24/05/2020 8. Azerbaijan Baku City 07/06/2020 9. Canada Montreal 14/06/2020 10. France Paul Ricard 28/06/2020 11. Austria Red Bull Ring 05/07/2020 12. G Britain Silverstone 19/07/2020 13. Hungary Budapest 02/08/2020 14. Belgium Spa-Francorchamps 30/08/2020 15. Italy Monza 06/09/2020 16. Singapore Marina Bay 20/09/2020 17. Russia Sochi 27/09/2020 18. Japan Suzuka 11/10/2020 19. USA Austin 25/10/2020 20. Mexico Mexico City 01/11/2020 21. Brazil Interlagos 15/11/2020 22. Abu Dhabi Yas Marina 29/11/2020 * Depends on coronavirus outbreak Rule changes this year are relatively small with the 2021 season on the horizon where the sport will change massively on and off the track. SPORTING REGULATIONS 1. The expanded calendar means teams are allowed to use 3 MGU-Ks over the course of the season now, up from 2 in 2019. 2. The bigger calendar also means reduced testing. Pre-season testing in Barcelona is down from 4 days to 3, and the mid-season testing has been abolished altogether. 3. Teams will no longer be able to hide their cars during testing (using screens) and the window where mechanics cannot work on the car has gone up from 8 hours to 9. 4. Free practice sessions can be used towards super licence points with 100km per session equalling 1 super licence point, up to 10 points per season. 5. There will no longer be any electronic chequered flag, after last season's Japanese booboo which saw it go off a lap early. Back to real flags only. Proper order! 6. Weighbridge and jump start penalties have been relaxed, allowing for more steward discretion. TECHNICAL REGULATIONS 1. To reduce risk of punctures, the outside 50mm of front wings can no longer contain any metal. 2. Brake ducts must be designed by the constructor and not out-sourced i.e. they are now a 'listed part'. 3. The amount of fuel in the car that is not within the fuel tank has been reduced from 2,000ml to 250ml. 4. Driver aids at the start line have also been reduced. 90% of torque is now down to the driver's command, and clutches must be 'pull-type'. 5. There will be a new little sharkfin on the rear of the engine cover with the driver's number on it for ease of identity for fans. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Regulation #3 clears up quite a bit from the last few years. Hopefully, we get some actual competitive racing this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 looking forward to the new season, is there going to be another Drive to Survive for last season on Netflix? the last series was brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 On 07/02/2020 at 16:41, BOF said: With 4 days until the first official team launch of the season at Ferrari, it's high time we created this season's Formula 1 thread - to enormous cheers around the Off Topic arena. Don't mention it guys, really, it was my pleasure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VT Supporter Genie Posted February 8, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted February 8, 2020 It’s a tricky one because as a Brit we have a superstar dominating... but I just cannot stand him and it’s pushed me away from the sport. I just really dislike everything he does. Everything about him is manufactured. He publicly throws his team under the bus if they make a call they didn’t work out. He has also ducked several meets at the factory in Northampton that make the cars that make him filthy rich (the other drivers and team staff go). He seems to be universally disliked within the sport too. If he leaves, or struggles I might get involved again. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakotaDakota Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Ahead of the car reveals we have this... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VT Supporter Stevo985 Posted February 10, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted February 10, 2020 (edited) On 08/02/2020 at 19:51, Genie said: It’s a tricky one because as a Brit we have a superstar dominating... but I just cannot stand him and it’s pushed me away from the sport. I just really dislike everything he does. Everything about him is manufactured. He publicly throws his team under the bus if they make a call they didn’t work out. He has also ducked several meets at the factory in Northampton that make the cars that make him filthy rich (the other drivers and team staff go). He seems to be universally disliked within the sport too. If he leaves, or struggles I might get involved again. I don't like Hamilton. But my problem with F1 is it's **** boring as ****. And this is from someone who has been watching the sport for literally his entire life. Some of my earliest memories are watching Nigel Mansell and Ayrton Senna on the sofa with my dad. I've been in denial for ages that the sport is getting more boring. But the last few seasons I've admitted it. It is boring. I'll still get excited by the start of the season, but I doubt I'll last the season watching it. I'm clinging to the big rule changes next season making it bearable Edited February 10, 2020 by Stevo985 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator BOF Posted February 10, 2020 Author Moderator Share Posted February 10, 2020 On 08/02/2020 at 19:51, Genie said: It’s a tricky one because as a Brit we have a superstar dominating... but I just cannot stand him and it’s pushed me away from the sport. I just really dislike everything he does. Everything about him is manufactured. He publicly throws his team under the bus if they make a call they didn’t work out. He has also ducked several meets at the factory in Northampton that make the cars that make him filthy rich (the other drivers and team staff go). He seems to be universally disliked within the sport too. If he leaves, or struggles I might get involved again. I think the title should be interesting this season. Ferrari can't continue to shoot themselves in the foot and a more experienced Leclerc will mean business. Max is targetting the title and wants 3rd place to be the lower limit. I think we have 3 serious title challengers this season. And then there's the other interesting stuff happening lower down the grid. 16 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: I don't like Hamilton. But my problem with F1 is it's **** boring as ****. And this is from someone who has been watching the sport for literally his entire life. Some of my earliest memories are watching Nigel Mansell and Ayrton Senna on the sofa with my dad. I've been in denial for ages that the sport is getting more boring. But the last few seasons I've admitted it. It is boring. I'll still get excited by the start of the season, but I doubt I'll last the season watching it. I'm clinging to the big rule changes next season making it bearable I thought last season was the best in ages. Obviously the title itself was wrapped up early, but everything else was much improved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCDAN Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, BOF said: I think the title should be interesting this season. Ferrari can't continue to shoot themselves in the foot and a more experienced Leclerc will mean business. Max is targetting the title and wants 3rd place to be the lower limit. I think we have 3 serious title challengers this season. And then there's the other interesting stuff happening lower down the grid. I thought last season was the best in ages. Obviously the title itself was wrapped up early, but everything else was much improved. I would agree with this. Overall it wasn't a bad season, there were some excellent races but there were a few terrible races. I can't remember which one it was but last season definitely had the most boring race I've ever seen. It does look like the pack are closing on Mercedes, hopefully its an even better one this year, i'll be watching for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozzavfc Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 On 08/02/2020 at 16:59, leemond2008 said: looking forward to the new season, is there going to be another Drive to Survive for last season on Netflix? the last series was brilliant. New season should be available from 28th Feb! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VT Supporter choffer Posted February 10, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted February 10, 2020 59 minutes ago, BOF said: Ferrari can't continue to shoot themselves in the foot How many years have we been saying this for? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator BOF Posted February 10, 2020 Author Moderator Share Posted February 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, choffer said: How many years have we been saying this for? Yeah but so have Liverpool FC and ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VT Supporter choffer Posted February 10, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted February 10, 2020 1 minute ago, BOF said: Yeah but so have Liverpool FC and ... One has shown incremental improvements year on year. The other has flattered to deceive, year on year. Amazed Vettel is still rinsing them for his salary though. I've thought he's been phoning it in for the last few years at least (although I've not been paying a whole lot of attention this last two seasons). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator BOF Posted February 10, 2020 Author Moderator Share Posted February 10, 2020 20 minutes ago, choffer said: One has shown incremental improvements year on year. The other has flattered to deceive, year on year. Amazed Vettel is still rinsing them for his salary though. I've thought he's been phoning it in for the last few years at least (although I've not been paying a whole lot of attention this last two seasons). Vettel will be one interesting element to this season. You're right, he was 'phoning it in' because he didn't have inter-team competition and he could hide behind the fact the Merc was superior when he was being beaten by Lewis (even if they weren't, there was no objective way to prove it). But there was a point midway through last season when public perception began to regard Leclerc as the team number one, and this definitely seemed to stoke something in Seb, and he put in some of his best performances for a few years. So it's like he needed to be questioned in order to spark something in him and realise the very real threat. It's like he was saying 'I'll show them I can still do it' and to his credit he could. So straight from the off this season I expect we'll see a fully motivated Vettel which will ironically be a bad thing for Ferrari, because the last thing they need is 2 drivers stealing points from each other when their 2 main rivals have very defined number 2 drivers, if not in contract, certainly in performance and ability. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator BOF Posted February 10, 2020 Author Moderator Share Posted February 10, 2020 I hope Ricciardo batters Ocon. I don't expect he will, because Ocon is clearly a very competent driver, but he's a dislikeable little shit so I hope Danny Ricc can maximise his familiarity with the Renault and put manners on the allegedly very political driver that is Ocon. It seems Renault identified what was wrong aerodynamically with their car half way through last season and because it was so fundamental it couldn't be fixed. So it's fixed this time and obviously they'll be targetting best of the rest - which puts them in direct competition with their customer constructor McLaren. That'll be a good battle. It'll be interesting to see what Lando can do in his second season. He needs to show better race form to get near Carlos in the WDC. Please Lord let Williams be closer to the pack. I don't want another season of them as a mobile chicane and I think George Russell is much too good to be back there. The good thing is they have the largest immprovements to find, so fingers crossed they find them. Latifi should be an improvement on Kubica and seemingly he's a very likeable chap so that'll offset the Ocon effect I'm hoping Haas and Racing Point bomb. I don't care for either of them tbqh although I have massive respect for Perez who I think has some of the best race craft on the grid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 2 hours ago, LakotaDakota said: Ahead of the car reveals we have this... Pussycat dolls look nice, and they are fun to play with... but the hangover is ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VT Supporter Genie Posted February 10, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted February 10, 2020 2 hours ago, choffer said: How many years have we been saying this for? Same amount of time people have been saying this 3 hours ago, AVFCDAN said: It does look like the pack are closing on Mercedes They never do, Mercedes continue to piss it with their engines set to 90% power. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator BOF Posted February 11, 2020 Author Moderator Share Posted February 11, 2020 Ferrari launch isn't until 17:30GMT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Looks like Lewis "Valderrama" is about to get a sweet contract offer to stay at Mercedes. £60m per season. Yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCDAN Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 15 hours ago, Genie said: Same amount of time people have been saying this They never do, Mercedes continue to piss it with their engines set to 90% power. Sooner or later they will though, even if its not this season. Without the Ferrari mistakes and Hamilton having one of his best seasons it would have been a lot closer. Imagine if Bottas was the lead driver for Merc last year and Hamilton was in the Ferrari. If I'm honest I don't actually know what the rule changes are next year, hopefully that resets a few things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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