villa89 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 29 minutes ago, useless said: I find these rumours of a move to Liverpool hard to believe, he's not good enough for them and they already have an host of midfielders better than him. They dont really though. Fabinho and thiago are their only two top class central midfielders. The rest are average at best. Elliott looks good but will need time. Henderson, Milner, keita, etc. all need to be replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted August 31, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 31, 2022 50 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: We will obviously get a replacement in if luiz goes. There is no chance he goes and we dont replace him. That would be a relegation move. Wonder if gerrard might try get a player from them in return. at this point nothing would surprise me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QldVilla Posted August 31, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 31, 2022 Personally I will be gutted if he leaves, always thought he was a very good player and can still become better. In the right position in midfield he could make the whole team tick, just needs a good manager who can utilise his talents. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 (edited) Wrong thread. Edited August 31, 2022 by jacketspuds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 16 minutes ago, nepal_villan said: Why not? Players playing out their contracts is not that unusual these days. See Kamara as an example. What would you rather? Him going for free next year or get some money now? it’s basically a £20-30m loan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 1 minute ago, CarryOnVilla said: What would you rather? Him going for free next year or get some money now? it’s basically a £20-30m loan What does £20-30m matter if we get relegated? Selling Luiz with no replacement lined up is suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom13 Posted August 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2022 Yet another player horribly mismanaged. Like him or not, even his biggest critics can't deny the part be played in keeping us up. This season, we finally sign a top quality DM so we can get the best out of Dougie alongside or just in front of him, and Gerrard just wastes that opportunity completely because he doesn't know how to set up a midfield. Sad. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 (edited) The scouse forums dont want him. Dont think he is good enough. Dougies gonna have a tough time there i think if he goes Edited August 31, 2022 by Demitri_C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Just now, duke313 said: What does £20-30m matter if we get relegated? Selling Luiz with no replacement lined up is suicide. It’s suicide having Gerrard in charge. losing Doug won’t change that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackbauer24 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 He's never really got going at Villa, he seemingly refuses to sign a contract and there's one year left. For all potential he may have, we can't turn down £20m if it's on table. I'd take it. Probably ask for Milner for a year to add some experience, organisation and bite to the midfield. But Villa are feeling quite 'done' now and there's a real danger of us completely crumbling away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 1 minute ago, CarryOnVilla said: It’s suicide having Gerrard in charge. losing Doug won’t change that It will be suicide because Luiz won’t be available for Gerrard’s replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 1 minute ago, CarryOnVilla said: It’s suicide having Gerrard in charge. losing Doug won’t change that Well yes, Gerrard needs to go also. But selling our 2nd best midfielder with nobody of equal or better ability to replace him means a relegation battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 1 minute ago, duke313 said: Well yes, Gerrard needs to go also. But selling our 2nd best midfielder with nobody of equal or better ability to replace him means a relegation battle. 1 minute ago, jacketspuds said: It will be suicide because Luiz won’t be available for Gerrard’s replacement. Let me get this clear… your logic on this is we are getting relegated if we lose one player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 1 minute ago, CarryOnVilla said: Let me get this clear… your logic on this is we are getting relegated if we lose one player? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, duke313 said: Yes our whole season is resting on one okish player…. Great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 20 minutes ago, CarryOnVilla said: Let me get this clear… your logic on this is we are getting relegated if we lose one player? My logic is that we are going to struggle anyway. Despite the fact that you think Luiz is ok-ish, it will still weaken the squad to not have him in it without replacing him. So without him we will struggle even more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabby Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 If the look on his face Sunday was anything to go by he won't be signing any deal any time soon.The fact we then collapsed when he went off would suggest he was right to be annoyed at being hooked. With one year on his deal he has every right to hold out , clearly the current manager's position is not secure.If he does go add him to Vertout and Gueye who went on to better things from the CM roles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, jacketspuds said: My logic is that we are going to struggle anyway. Despite the fact that you think Luiz is ok-ish, it will still weaken the squad to not have him in it without replacing him. So without him we will struggle even more. We going to struggle with or without him, regardless, thanks to stevie. So back to my original statement. If he’s not going to sign a contract, Villa might as well sell. Use that money to get a replacement… if we can’t, Morgs, Marv and Tim have to step up.. but at least we have money in the bank for any replacement down the line 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokingzen Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 7 minutes ago, CarryOnVilla said: We going to struggle with or without him, regardless, thanks to stevie. So back to my original statement. If he’s not going to sign a contract, Villa might as well sell. Use that money to get a replacement… if we can’t, Morgs, Marv and Tim have to step up.. but at least we have money in the bank for any replacement down the line Your first sentence is just an assumption on your part and not necessarily true, plus there are wholly different degrees of struggle with potentially different consequences, so to say we'll struggle anyway isn't particularly relevant, if we're struggling a hell of a lot more due to the loss of certain players and that could tip the balance towards relegation. So back you your original statement, "If he’s not going to sign a contract, Villa might as well sell."... no that doesn't follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 19 minutes ago, smokingzen said: Your first sentence is just an assumption on your part and not necessarily true, plus there are wholly different degrees of struggle with potentially different consequences, so to say we'll struggle anyway isn't particularly relevant, if we're struggling a hell of a lot more due to the loss of certain players and that could tip the balance towards relegation. So back you your original statement, "If he’s not going to sign a contract, Villa might as well sell."... no that doesn't follow. What would you want, if he’s doesn’t sign a contract? Sell now for £20-30m or let him him go for free next summer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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