choffer Posted October 18, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted October 18, 2019 News at six goes “up north” to a constituency that was split 50/50 during the referendum to interview people who still have a variety of views. interviewee 1 - we won, get over it Interviewee 2 - i voted remain but we should just get on with it and leave even without a deal interviewee 3 - I think we should still leave but maybe with a bit more negotiation interviewee 4 - we should definitely leave but maybe with another referendum first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 On 14/10/2019 at 19:04, Dr_Pangloss said: Question Time is utterly unwatchable these days. It's been on a downward slope for a long time but Fiona Bruce has tipped it over the edge, she's absolutely ghastly and the audience has never been so full of degenerates. However it does create brief comic moments for people on twitter. The comments in the thread are quite amusing. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Little Alun Cairns MP and Secretary of State for Bristol on the news just now calling on Welsh Labour MP’s from leave voting constituencies to vote for the Brexit deal as they will have to look their constituents in the eye and represent their views. Now, if I’d been the BBC journalist interviewing him I’d have pointed out he’s from a remain voting constituency. But no, just let it drift on by unchallenged. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 18, 2019 Author Moderator Share Posted October 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: Little Alun Cairns MP and Secretary of State for Bristol on the news just now calling on Welsh Labour MP’s from leave voting constituencies to vote for the Brexit deal as they will have to look their constituents in the eye and represent their views. Now, if I’d been the BBC journalist interviewing him I’d have pointed out he’s from a remain voting constituency. But no, just let it drift on by unchallenged. It never happend to J R-M when he suggested similar either. I've come to expect it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted October 18, 2019 Moderator Share Posted October 18, 2019 41 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: no, just let it drift on by unchallenged probably didn't even know. They don't appear to do much research, these interviewers, apart from the kind of set piece ones likes Newsnight and a few others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 1 hour ago, bickster said: It never happend to J R-M when he suggested similar either. I've come to expect it Raab too. And Steve Baker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted October 19, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted October 19, 2019 Debatable whether the London march was a million, but the BBC news headline said "thousands marched". Not hundreds of thousands, not even tens of thousands. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 19, 2019 Author Moderator Share Posted October 19, 2019 39 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Debatable whether the London march was a million, but the BBC news headline said "thousands marched". Not hundreds of thousands, not even tens of thousands. Same as the last one, they do it all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 50 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Debatable whether the London march was a million, but the BBC news headline said "thousands marched". Not hundreds of thousands, not even tens of thousands. They do it constantly, they had complaints about one here they’d described as ‘hundreds’ when it was clearly a few thousand. They changed the headline to ‘many’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Not only about the BBC - a conservative journalist discusses how the media have adopted an uncritical and facilitative approach to the government's use of lies and deceit to spin stories, and how well it's working. Quite long, with many specific and recent examples. British journalists have become part of Johnson’s fake news machine Quote It’s chilling. From the Mail, The Times to the BBC and ITN, everyone is peddling Downing Street’s lies and smears. They’re turning their readers into dupes... ...I’ve found it hard to get this article in print. One editor explained reluctance to publish on the grounds that the newspaper’s political team had cultivated excellent insider sources and publishing my piece would invite charges of hypocrisy. There was a searing honesty of sorts to this remark. Papers and media organisations yearn for privileged access and favourable treatment. And they are prepared to pay a price to get it. This price involves becoming a subsidiary part of the government machine. It means turning their readers and viewers into dupes. This client journalism allows Downing Street to frame the story as it wants. Some allow themselves to be used as tools to smear the government’s opponents. They say goodbye to the truth. Social media has provided new ways of breaking the boundaries of decent, honest journalism. Of course political journalists have always entered into behind-the-scenes deals with politicians, but this kind of arrangement has gained a new dimension since Boris Johnson entered Downing Street with the support of a client press and media. As a former lobby correspondent (on the Evening Standard, the Sunday Express and The Spectator) I understand the need for access. The job of lobby journalists is to produce information. But there is now clear evidence that the prime minister has debauched Downing Street by using the power of his office to spread propaganda and fake news. British political journalists have got chillingly close to providing the same service to Boris Johnson that Fox News delivers for Donald Trump. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted October 22, 2019 Moderator Share Posted October 22, 2019 19 minutes ago, peterms said: Not only about the BBC - a conservative journalist discusses how the media have adopted an uncritical and facilitative approach to the government's use of lies and deceit to spin stories, and how well it's working. Quite long, with many specific and recent examples. British journalists have become part of Johnson’s fake news machine I read that earlier today, and also the Peston reply. I think he's (Oborne) broadly right, though Peston is kind of right too in his personal response. Obviously the Tory rags are tory rags, but the lack of thinking Johnson's used in his favour is quite deliberate and the media generally are failing us in their,er, failure to highlight this - the rags won't, but the Beeb, ITN etc. should do it much more than they do. With them it's not conscious bias, it's just lowered professionalism, really. It's poor. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted October 22, 2019 Moderator Share Posted October 22, 2019 I have a particular dislike of Kuenssberg, her style of reporting, and her clear bias. Her Wikipedia page shows her lineage and looking at her family tree she's almost the perfect Tory for the job. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said: I have a particular dislike of Kuenssberg, her style of reporting, and her clear bias But, like @choffer, you still would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted October 22, 2019 Moderator Share Posted October 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, snowychap said: But, like @choffer, you still would. Not for me thanks. If we're talking journalists then the conversation starts and stops with Sarah-Jane Mee. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Errrrm, wtf!? Quote BBC apologises after Andrew Marr accuses Priti Patel of laughing at him during Brexit interview Political presenter Marr was grilling the Home Secretary about the impact of Britain's exit from the European Union on his Sunday morning politics programme when he scolded: "I can't see why you're laughing." Ms Patel, who appeared via video link on the October 13 episode of The Andrew Marr Show, did not respond and continued answering questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said: Not for me thanks. If we're talking journalists then the conversation starts and stops with Sarah-Jane Mee. Me neither - it was just a continuation of the joke, Rob. Edited October 22, 2019 by snowychap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 minute ago, StefanAVFC said: Errrrm, wtf!? To be fair, the reason that she was 'just wearing her natural expression' is quite amusing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said: Sarah-Jane Mee Much to commend her (going back to her days on Central Sport, too). I'm astonished that she's in her forties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Errrrm, wtf!? Absolutely unforgivable that they have apologised. He should have been harder hitting in challenging her smirking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted October 22, 2019 Moderator Share Posted October 22, 2019 28 minutes ago, snowychap said: Much to commend her (going back to her days on Central Sport, too). I'm astonished that she's in her forties. Me too - I had no idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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