Aston_Villan4 Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, daft said: I honestly think he was talking about Ming's fitness. I’m thinking he was as well. He just said it in a weird way that allowed for multiple interpretations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 1 minute ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Scenes when Konsa starts again as CB with Carlos instead Lol Fify. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, daft said: I honestly think he was talking about Ming's fitness. How? In terms of being fit and ready? "Gaffer I'm fit and ready to play." Yeah but you didn't look me in the eye. Next! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 If Mings start, this is a massive game for him. Silly mistakes, hoofing, everything wil be used against him. I hope he starts and he absolutely smashes it. He deserves to be a part of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 28 minutes ago, villanmac said: Side picked based on performances...Konsa was shit last week so Mings rightfully returns to the side. Mings was recovering from an injury so not beyond the realms of possibility that was the reason he was on the bench last week. So, can we entertain the possibility that this massive rift was a load of bollocks then? Well the Athletic did tweet there was never any rift between the two. Think it just got lost in all the brouhaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 Just now, Mic09 said: If Mings start, this is a massive game for him. Silly mistakes, hoofing, everything wil be used against him. I hope he starts and he absolutely smashes it. He deserves to be a part of the team. Which do you think would attract more morons to comment on it - the caffeine gum he chews or a pre game red bull on camera like Gestede? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 Here's what Gerrard actually said "When Tyrone is back at his best and looks me in the eye and shows that he's ready to play, he'll get opportunities." The comment was about players missing and whilst poorly worded other comments follow. When asked if the decision to play related to losing the captaincy or injury, Gerrard said both. "It's a little bit of that. He's also missed some training time with an injury and there's a niggle in the background as well." The interviewer mentions Ty's good character which Gerrard agrees with and he says: "Yeah, 100%, that's the challenge I've set him when I made the decision over the captaincy. We set him that challenge. We said to Tyrone, "you get back to your consistent best, and you'll be back in the team." Gerrard adds we can't just have one leader on the pitch [reference to a lack of Mings] https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0crkvk0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, daft said: I honestly think he was talking about Ming's fitness. He was. It’s just when you’re struggling and under pressure you have to be careful with your words as media and fans will be all over you. As I said before start winning games and he can say what he wants. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daft Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: How? In terms of being fit and ready? "Gaffer I'm fit and ready to play." Yeah but you didn't look me in the eye. Next! Yeah, I think so. It's a figure of speech. It means being convincing and earnest I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 Just now, Vive_La_Villa said: He was. It’s just when you’re struggling and under pressure you have to be careful with your words as media and fans will be all over you. As I said before start winning games and he can say what he wants. Gerrard was obviously mad about the result and I agree it was poorly worded. The media wanted a narrative and it got picked up by people who want to believe the worst about Gerrard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 Just now, The_Steve said: Gerrard was obviously mad about the result and I agree it was poorly worded. The media wanted a narrative and it got picked up by people who want to believe the worst about Gerrard. Not really. He stripped Mings of the captaincy and any leadership role then he didn't play opening game of the season...and those are the words he chose. It's ridiculous. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 Who said this? “I made football decisions. Some players were not available to us, hence Leon Bailey starting. He still needs minutes under his belt. Tyrone took it like a professional, like I expected him too." But some people reserve far more criticism for Gerrard than Smith. It was obviously a fitness issue and a personal challenge to Mings. I wasn't happy with the initial wording but I encourage people to listen to the full context. As Gerrard is clearly trying to encourage Mings to be at his best which he can only do when fully fit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 The thing is if he plays well today and we win the narrative will be Gerrard **** up for dropping him and now Mings is proving him wrong and saving his ass. Either way who cares I guess. As long as we win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 He starts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, The_Steve said: Who said this? “I made football decisions. Some players were not available to us, hence Leon Bailey starting. He still needs minutes under his belt. Tyrone took it like a professional, like I expected him too." But some people reserve far more criticism for Gerrard than Smith. It was obviously a fitness issue and a personal challenge to Mings. I wasn't happy with the initial wording but I encourage people to listen to the full context. As Gerrard is clearly trying to encourage Mings to be at his best which he can only do when fully fit. Did he really say that about Bailey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 Just now, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: He starts So he wasn't fit last week shocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 Just now, Tom13 said: Did he really say that about Bailey? He did https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/aston-villa/2021/11/01/dean-smith-dropping-tyrone-mings-was-a-big-call/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 Just now, The_Steve said: He did https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/aston-villa/2021/11/01/dean-smith-dropping-tyrone-mings-was-a-big-call/ Ah I thought it was a quote after Bournemouth. Nvm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 I’m just pleased that Mings looked him in the eye this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 I hope people continue to quote this too "Tyrone Mings is fully fit. I know I took the captaincy off him but I didn't take the position off him. Hopefully he will be very important for us." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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