sne Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 If you believe the more sinister reports it's pretty much Messi who picks the manager, squad and starting 11 and tactic. Unless you are on his good side you are out. He throws tantrums when he doesn't get his wish and is basically a giant entitled baby. But that is quite likely bull. Then again watching a game like tonight you can't help but wonder. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Someone mentioned the Argentina FA, what's up with them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted June 21, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted June 21, 2018 Just now, VillaChris said: On the flip side, how good was Modric tonight? Did he even misplace one pass? Total masterclass, played like Scholes/Pirlo/Xavi all rolled into one. He was almost as good as Sid Cowans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 10 minutes ago, VillaAlex said: What on earth was MAscherano doing then, stopped playing. take your pick which argie stopped playing... until the goal they were poor, as soon as the goal went in they were defeated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Zatman said: Btw Messi has been a disgrace in this tournament. If Rooney had put them displays in it would be front page headlines Yeah, agreed - looked like one big sulk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Just now, coda said: Someone mentioned the Argentina FA, what's up with them? Busy trying to cover up the sexual assault allegations against manager Sampaioli? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 1 minute ago, sne said: If you believe the more sinister reports it's pretty much Messi who picks the manager, squad and starting 11 and tactic. Unless you are on his good side you are out. He throws tantrums when he doesn't get his wish and is basically a giant entitled baby. But that is quite likely bull. Then again watching a game like tonight you can't help but wonder. Isn't he the reason Icardi didn't go, despite being in terrific form for Inter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Some decent players there but balance is so wrong. Otamendi though...outside of the Man. City system that protects him he's been shown up for the bog standard defender he is. Agree. On paper there are still some brilliant players there but if you asked someone to set Argentina up worse they would struggle. Back 3 consisting of a CB and two predominate full-backs, 2 bang average wingers at wing-back. Then Mascherano in a midfield 2; no Banega, no Di Maria, no Dybala. What on earth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 1 minute ago, sne said: If you believe the more sinister reports it's pretty much Messi who picks the manager, squad and starting 11 and tactic. Unless you are on his good side you are out. He throws tantrums when he doesn't get his wish and is basically a giant entitled baby. But that is quite likely bull. Then again watching a game like tonight you can't help but wonder. Then he is a shit manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 The ref lost control of that, really surprised we didn't see any serious injuries. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Just now, Dr_Pangloss said: Isn't he the reason Icardi didn't go, despite being in terrific form for Inter? Yes, that's the Maxi Lopez story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Ian Darke on BBC doesn't feel right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, sne said: If you believe the more sinister reports it's pretty much Messi who picks the manager, squad and starting 11 and tactic. Unless you are on his good side you are out. He throws tantrums when he doesn't get his wish and is basically a giant entitled baby. But that is quite likely bull. Then again watching a game like tonight you can't help but wonder. He's always come across to me as having the attitude of a petulant child. Should never be their captain, the guy isn't a leader in the slightest. Has proved this on numerous occasions, his performance today being a prime example. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted June 21, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted June 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Davkaus said: The ref lost control of that, really surprised we didn't see any serious injuries. Ref was weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Isn't he the reason Icardi didn't go, despite being in terrific form for Inter? no, icardi's poor form for argentina compared to messi, dybala, aguero and higuian is why he didnt go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Zatman said: Then he is a shit manager Someone is for them at least. Changing from a 4-3-3 to a 3-4-3 and swapping out half the starting 11 you kinda could guess it wouldn't work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Just now, villa4europe said: no, icardi's poor form for argentina compared to messi, dybala, aguero and higuian is why he didnt go He's only got 4 caps LOL. Dybala has 13 and not a single goal. Naive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Isn't he the reason Icardi didn't go, despite being in terrific form for Inter? Pretty much. Icardi nicked Maxi Lopez wife. Maxi Lopez was at Barca when Messi came as a young player so they get on very well. Bigger scandal is Dybala hardly getting a game despite being great for Juventus because he takes up Messi's space on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, penguin said: He's always come across to me as having the attitude of a petulant child. Should never be their captain, the guy isn't a leader in the slightest. Has proved this on numerous occasions, his performance today being a prime example. Dunno his hat trick got them to the finals and they lose a huge chunk of their games when he's not playing. There are way too many faults with the team really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 1 minute ago, VillaChris said: Bigger scandal is Dybala hardly getting a game despite being great for Juventus because he takes up Messi's space on the pitch. thats where your management comes in to it, as good as dybala has been for juve messi has been better for barca and the argies, find a way of fitting them both in, playing dybala out on the right isnt it to me at times tonight they looked like the last couple of england teams, didnt want to be there, not enjoying it and therefore not working or playing for each other 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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