Ingram85 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Dunno, looks a bit nef to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 training kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 leicester get a sunday league catalogue kit too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Adidas really refuse to do anything bespoke for anyone apart from the biggest clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 to be fair to puma even with that horrific sponsor i think the baggies kits will be really popular Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 The 3 of them are very nice to be fair. Being sponsored by a boiler manufacturer is infinitely better than having a gambling company on a jersey too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troglodyte Posted August 2, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted August 2, 2018 Yeah but it's still not ideal. Oh... 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 I’m loving Norwich Home apart from that sponsorship monstrosity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 3, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted August 3, 2018 West Brom kits are decent. It's good that they were able to change the colour of the sponsor to match. That helps a lot. A lot of sponsors don't allow that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 I'm liking the USA kit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 6, 2018 Author Share Posted August 6, 2018 Udinese kit absolutely destroyed by sponsors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 3 hours ago, sne said: Udinese kit absolutely destroyed by sponsors. That is awful. Was the white box really necessary? The shirt would have looked much cleaner with just the logo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 7, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted August 7, 2018 18 hours ago, Keyblade said: That is awful. Was the white box really necessary? The shirt would have looked much cleaner with just the logo. I think it's the case that the sponsor decides what they put on the kit. The white box means the logo stands out more, they don't really care if it looks nice. I guess @NurembergVillan could confirm, but I think that's how it works. It's why I said above that it was good that West Brom's kits had the sponsor in different colours to match the kit as I thought they often didn't allow that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted August 7, 2018 Moderator Share Posted August 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: I think it's the case that the sponsor decides what they put on the kit. The white box means the logo stands out more, they don't really care if it looks nice. I guess @NurembergVillan could confirm, but I think that's how it works. It's why I said above that it was good that West Brom's kits had the sponsor in different colours to match the kit as I thought they often didn't allow that. Absolutely right. Some sponsors are image-conscious and want the logo to look right on the kit. Others just want it to stand out as much as possible. Back when I was designing the Lazio kit, the sponsor was Siemens Mobile. At the time the rule was that it could be a maximum of 200cm sq. Siemens HQ was only just up the road from Puma, so they used to send a marketing guy down to measure their logo on the final prototype to ensure it was as big as possible. One year it was a different guy who refused to sign it off as it was registering closer to 199cm sq. We tried to explain that as the logos are applied with heat there always has to be a tolerance for some shrinkage. Took days to get it sorted and led to a slight delay in the fans being able to buy shirts. Chang were an interesting one too, with Everton. Being Thai there are certain colours that have different meanings so we had to be conscious of that. Black was always an absolute no-no. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 7, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted August 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said: Absolutely right. Some sponsors are image-conscious and want the logo to look right on the kit. Others just want it to stand out as much as possible. Back when I was designing the Lazio kit, the sponsor was Siemens Mobile. At the time the rule was that it could be a maximum of 200cm sq. Siemens HQ was only just up the road from Puma, so they used to send a marketing guy down to measure their logo on the final prototype to ensure it was as big as possible. One year it was a different guy who refused to sign it off as it was registering closer to 199cm sq. We tried to explain that as the logos are applied with heat there always has to be a tolerance for some shrinkage. Took days to get it sorted and led to a slight delay in the fans being able to buy shirts. Chang were an interesting one too, with Everton. Being Thai there are certain colours that have different meanings so we had to be conscious of that. Black was always an absolute no-no. Yeah thought it would be like that. I think I remember you telling that Siemens story before. So sometimes you did have to consider the sponsor when designing the kit? I always thought it would be a case of you would design the kit, essentially a blank canvas. Then the sponsor just gets slapped on whenever it was decided. I guess it depends on whether it's a team with a regular sponsor or one that changes every year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted August 7, 2018 Moderator Share Posted August 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Yeah thought it would be like that. I think I remember you telling that Siemens story before. So sometimes you did have to consider the sponsor when designing the kit? I always thought it would be a case of you would design the kit, essentially a blank canvas. Then the sponsor just gets slapped on whenever it was decided. I guess it depends on whether it's a team with a regular sponsor or one that changes every year? I've almost certainly used the Siemens story before! Yeah we'd always take the sponsor into account if we know it beforehand. If a club signs a deal at the last minute you're kippered. That tends also to be the biggest factor in kits arriving in-store late. Teams with regular sponsors were easier to design for as you'd know what they were up for, especially in terms of colour. If a sponsor insists their sponsor is green regardless of background then you know you have to design around that. The other factor is player names. It impacts where you can put seams, how you shape the shoulders, and what you do with colour. Designing for England we had to get special dispensation from UEFA and FIFA to use the lettering approved within the women's regulations on Shaun Wright-Phillips' kit because it's a massive name and a small shirt. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 7, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted August 7, 2018 1 minute ago, NurembergVillan said: The other factor is player names. It impacts where you can put seams, how you shape the shoulders, and what you do with colour. Designing for England we had to get special dispensation from UEFA and FIFA to use the lettering approved within the women's regulations on Shaun Wright-Phillips' kit because it's a massive name and a small shirt. Like Hepburn-Murphy last night Looked like someone dropped some scrabble tiles on his shirt 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 7, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted August 7, 2018 On that note, what's with the weird squiggle by the players names on the Championship kits this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted August 7, 2018 Moderator Share Posted August 7, 2018 13 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: On that note, what's with the weird squiggle by the players names on the Championship kits this season? It's the logo for the mental health charity, Mind. I'm finding it hard to read some of the names though. Would've been better on the numbers I think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 7, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted August 7, 2018 20 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said: It's the logo for the mental health charity, Mind. I'm finding it hard to read some of the names though. Would've been better on the numbers I think. Ah, thought it would be something like that, like the prostate cancer awareness last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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