V01 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 VAR is brilliant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 that offside decision is where i think it does justify itself, with the best will in the world you cant expect officials to spot kroos touch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) The greatest single innovation in the history of the game surely ? Bye bye Germany.... Edited June 27, 2018 by terrytini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 6 hours ago, Stevo985 said: But the point is it's very very difficult to judge whether a player has done it deliberately or not. Even the Sanchez one you could argue wasn't deliberate. He just had his arms out. Which is where I think the "unnatural position" thing has come from. Because intent is too hard to judge unless you're a mind reader. Plus if it's purely on intent, then surely a defender could stand on the line with his arms in the air? If the ball its them well, he didn't intend it, so it's not a handball. “Unnatural position” may be the wrong phrase there, but you’d have to question why his arms are in the air. It would be reasonable to assume it’s to stop the ball with his hands and, therefore, deliberate. Again, it’s pretty simple. I don’t think there’s been any particularly tough handball decisions in this World Cup - some have still been incorrectly given though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted June 27, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) VAR in it's current form surprisingly makes games more entertaining. We never had so many players running after, shouting at, or pushing refs as we have now. All because of VAR. And I was against VAR because I wanted stories of wrong decisions to stay alive as they always have. How wrong was I to suspect VAR would take this intrinsic part of the game away from us. Edited June 27, 2018 by AVTuco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 On 27/06/2018 at 12:46, bobzy said: Personally, I think it's pretty simple. Did Rojo deliberately handle the ball? No. Did Poulsen? No. Did Umtiti? Yes. Did Soares? No. Did Sanchez? Yes - that's just from this World Cup and I'd be surprised if anyone thinks differently*. * - Plus they'd just be wrong if they did A sample of four is not enough to go ahead and state that every handball decision will be 'simple'. Again, we know this, because we have decades of evidence of pundits arguing about handballs as proof. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bobzy Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 4 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: A sample of four is not enough to go ahead and state that every handball decision will be 'simple'. Again, we know this, because we have decades of evidence of pundits arguing about handballs as proof. Pundits in not knowing football rules non-shocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 1 hour ago, bobzy said: Pundits in not knowing football rules non-shocker. It's not about the rules. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Shame they blanked out the dogs abuse from the players... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 27, 2018 Author VT Supporter Share Posted August 27, 2018 I can't really tell what's going on at the start of that clip. But shows you what the ref's have to deal with constantly. Also shows that the VAR review, in that case, was basically seamless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Interesting clip though i do find uncomfortable the first name calling of the players Too friendly for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 27, 2018 Author VT Supporter Share Posted August 27, 2018 13 minutes ago, Zatman said: Interesting clip though i do find uncomfortable the first name calling of the players Too friendly for me Yeah that seems a bit strange. But then again it's the quickest way to get their attention. The ref probably doesn't know every number off by heart, and I know it's on shirts but if they know who they're talking to maybe that's best? But yeah does seem too comfortable. I'd like to know if it was the norm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 I imagine Phil Dowd wouldnt take that approach. He used to just shout at players as if he a school teacher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Why is the VAR in English football completely different than the World Cup version. I think it worked for the fans and viewers in the World Cup as they saw the referee look at the incident and not some faceless officials awarding it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Two annoying things about VAR. 1.Azpulicueta and other Chelsea players arguing with the ref even though the incident was being reviewed. 2. Sky commentators stating the obvious and showing replay after replay when we can all see what happened. Also £78m for a keeper who doesn't have the brain to stay on his feet instead of flying out giving away a stone wall penalty? Basic goalkeeping stuff, kane still had a lot to do to score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) Both Pochettino and Sarri stating their dislike for VAR after yesterdays game. So far it seem like fans like it while players and managers seem to hate it. As expected there is a lot of work still to be done for it to work properly. Spending 2 minutes or whatever to look at video to decide if it's it a pen if Kane was 1 millimeter offside or not is not how it should be used IMO. Edited January 9, 2019 by sne 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 12 hours ago, Zatman said: Why is the VAR in English football completely different than the World Cup version. I think it worked for the fans and viewers in the World Cup as they saw the referee look at the incident and not some faceless officials awarding it. I think the ref only looks at it (on a screen at the side of the pitch) if the people in the back office as him to review it. *I didn't watch the game last night so maybe getting this wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 14 minutes ago, Genie said: I think the ref only looks at it (on a screen at the side of the pitch) if the people in the back office as him to review it. *I didn't watch the game last night so maybe getting this wrong. Somebody in an office in London said it was a penalty and he never looked at it. In World Cup i think the ref had a beeper on watch to ask him to look which i think managers and players accepted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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