VillaChris Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 On 20/01/2019 at 19:06, Zatman said: Last week Levante had a dodgy VAR call against them vs Atletico. Maybe they add up Clearly not, they got done with Casemiro diving and VAR still telling ref to give penalty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 26, 2019 Author VT Supporter Share Posted February 26, 2019 9 hours ago, VillaChris said: Clearly not, they got done with Casemiro diving and VAR still telling ref to give penalty! Just being pedantic, but VAR didn't tell the ref anything. VAR just gave the ref the chance to see the incident again, and then he upheld the decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Stevo985 said: Just being pedantic, but VAR didn't tell the ref anything. VAR just gave the ref the chance to see the incident again, and then he upheld the decision. yep that's the way i see it too, a shit ref with a video replay is still a shit ref VAR doesnt fix refs and for me the worry is 1) refs in our country are **** terrible (mike dean will love the attention) 2) VAR isnt used for 99% of decisions in a game, the soft free kicks, the throw ins and goal kicks / corners given the wrong way etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphan04 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 big decision today and for me thats the wrong one. I think VAR is a step in the right direction, but with it a ref can call pretty much any handball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 I like VAR but it’s causing a serious problem with handballs. First the World Cup final and now this. They need to clear up the rules on handball! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I like VAR but it’s causing a serious problem with handballs. First the World Cup final and now this. They need to clear up the rules on handball! They're doing so - because no-one understood them before. They're adding in something like hitting the arm "outside of a natural silhouette" of a player is handball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 11 minutes ago, bobzy said: They're doing so - because no-one understood them before. They're adding in something like hitting the arm "outside of a natural silhouette" of a player is handball. There’s going to be so many soft penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 just been used to give porto a penalty too in extra time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Im still shocked the Ajax goal was allowed last night. Ball looked like it went out for a throw in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphan04 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 I think it was used quite well in the Porto/Roma game but I think I would've let the ref have a look with the "trip" by porto right at the end. Don't think that it would've been called a pen but I felt that it was close enough. I think the main takeaway from the addition of VAR is that handball's like PSG's aren't being called real time and only being caught by VAR. This brings around a different standard with refs w/o VAR and it gets confusing going back and forth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 PSG were robbed that was never a pen. Var causing massive problems by shit referring. If your going to give a pen for that you will be giving maybe two a game. The guy wasn’t even facing the ball, it was close and his arm was not completely out. It stinks for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 7 hours ago, Villaphan04 said: I think the main takeaway from the addition of VAR is that handball's like PSG's aren't being called real time and only being caught by VAR. This brings around a different standard with refs w/o VAR and it gets confusing going back and forth. My understanding of VAR is that it would correct clear and obvious errors. The PSG handball is not deliberate against a shot that looks to be utterly awful. How they can come to the conclusion that the referee made a clear and obvious error there is baffling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Demitri_C said: PSG were robbed that was never a pen. Var causing massive problems by shit referring. If your going to give a pen for that you will be giving maybe two a game. The guy wasn’t even facing the ball, it was close and his arm was not completely out. It stinks for me I think VAR is shite personally, but if you're going to throw yourself in front of the ball with your arms out, then if it hits your arm it's a dead set penalty. It wasn't as if the ball just hit him as he stood there, he tried to block it with his body. Very unlucky though. Edited March 7, 2019 by MrDuck 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Handball is shitty everywhere. The problem is with handball, people see the ball hit the arm and claim handball regardless of context. VAR doesn't add any context either 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 The cynic in me would also suggest that with Real Madrid out and Juventus probably following that UEFA feel United are a bigger draw than PSG r 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 24 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Handball is shitty everywhere. The problem is with handball, people see the ball hit the arm and claim handball regardless of context. VAR doesn't add any context either Var should not be used for hand balls in my opinion. I don't see how the ref can say that's 100% a pen when ten hours later everyone is still debating whether it was or wasn't. Very poor form the referee and smells fishy to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Interesting that referee pundits seem to agree its the correct decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 The referee pundits are then obviously very shit or biased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 10 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: The referee pundits are then obviously very shit or biased. Or they know the laws and ex footballers dont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Zatman said: Or they know the laws and ex footballers dont But its not like referees don't make mistakes do they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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