Stevo985 Posted September 12, 2022 Author VT Supporter Share Posted September 12, 2022 21 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: Why was our goal against City unable to be reviewed by VAR as the whistle had been blown but Man Utd once got awarded a penalty against Brighton after the friggin' full time whistle had blown!? Because the whistle being blown in our game meant the opposition had stopped playing because there was a whistle. It's impossible for VAR or any ref to determine whether that goal would have still happened if they didn't blow. The Man Utd game was an incident that happened before the full time whistle, but a decision was made after the full time whistle had blown. The two situations aren't comparable, different scenarios completely. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 3 hours ago, Wainy316 said: Why was our goal against City unable to be reviewed by VAR as the whistle had been blown but Man Utd once got awarded a penalty against Brighton after the friggin' full time whistle had blown!? You would think after the full time whistle blows that any decisions that weren’t given shouldn't than be given, regardless of when the incorrect decision occurs. Got to love a bit of corruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted September 16, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 16, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 14 minutes ago, fightoffyour said: I wonder if he did he do the VAR signal when walking over to the phone? Get this guy in the Premier League 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted September 16, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 16, 2022 This is genuinely an example of how it could be run though. The referee has presumably been challenged by the manager and/or fans, and has then gone to review the evidence free of bias from colleagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Bamford and Gabriel in a battle of the bell ends. VAR saving Arsenal and Gabriel. Not sure if they got it right in regards to the cards but right call not giving the pen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Chilwell foul today on Ramsey very similar to the one Emerson Royal did against Martinelli which was given a straight red. Against Nottingham Forest we should have had a pen, very similar to the one Arsenal got against Liverpool which was given as a penalty. VAR is a joke just get rid it's meant to be consistent. It's only consistent if your a big six side. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 48 minutes ago, AshVilla said: Chilwell foul today on Ramsey very similar to the one Emerson Royal did against Martinelli which was given a straight red. Against Nottingham Forest we should have had a pen, very similar to the one Arsenal got against Liverpool which was given as a penalty. VAR is a joke just get rid it's meant to be consistent. It's only consistent if your a big six side. Can we get rid of it after Gerrard is gone? Thnx bye! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May-Z Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Chillwell's foul today was not very nice at all. I don't know what more it would've had to have been a red...not to have a pitch side check doesn't seem right. As a side note, imo the ref should be making all decisions...not being advised. VAR should just say...'go check the monitor' and leave the decision making with one person. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delboy54 Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 1 hour ago, rjw63 said: Can we get rid of it after Gerrard is gone? Thnx bye! Yep, when we go down to the Championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 46 minutes ago, May-Z said: Chillwell's foul today was not very nice at all. I don't know what more it would've had to have been a red...not to have a pitch side check doesn't seem right. As a side note, imo the ref should be making all decisions...not being advised. VAR should just say...'go check the monitor' and leave the decision making with one person. Definitely VAR watches everything, when they spot something they buzz down and say "you might want to look at that again" pitch ref can say yep or no I'm OK and this is why* That's how it was when they introduced it at the world cup with FIFA in charge * the this is why element of it could also then be shared, maybe not live on the spot but if the recording was now on sky sports news of him saying its only a yellow because... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Red card every day. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Chilwell tackle was a shocker and potential leg breaker Think was Mount behind him reacting like he is off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 I don't think the Chilwell tackle was worthy of a red, personally. It's not a good challenge, for sure, but doesn't warrant sending off IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, bobzy said: I don't think the Chilwell tackle was worthy of a red, personally. It's not a good challenge, for sure, but doesn't warrant sending off IMO. Why not? For me he's left the ground has no control and his studs are up If that's not a red then I'm not sure what is anymore, not saying it should be I'm saying that in terms of consistency and what we've seen in other games it is a red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 46 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Why not? For me he's left the ground has no control and his studs are up If that's not a red then I'm not sure what is anymore, not saying it should be I'm saying that in terms of consistency and what we've seen in other games it is a red I just don’t think a player should be sent off for that. I haven’t watched it back but, from memory, he ended up along the ground and caught our player on the ankle with his studs. There wasn’t anything particularly dangerous or reckless in there, for me. Then again, I am aware I’m also one of few who don’t have appetite for red cards. A lot of people want to see reds for any contact of stud on a player - which I just don’t agree with. Agreed on the consistency point, but I don’t think other incidents have been exactly the same (I also don’t think Emerson should have been sent off. I remember commenting on it on this forum somewhere). Edited October 18, 2022 by bobzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WakefieldVillan Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 On the Chilwell tackle - I think a few years ago this would be a yellow card all day long (an orange one if ever there was one) BUT I think in today's game it could have definitely been given as a red as it was a pretty naughty challenge, reckless, studs up, could have caused a bit of damage to Ramsey. I think VAR should have been involved (and no doubt would have if roles were reversed ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 I’d argue that the recklessness of the tackle, studs up, travelling at distance and being no where near the ball. Ramsey was lucky not to be injured. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted October 18, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 18, 2022 You can't convince me the Chilwell tackle was not a red card. Reckless, out of control, studs up, off the ground, not looking at the ball, nowhere near getting the ball. Isn't that the definition of a red card challenge? By what metric would it be anything else? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 He’s not off the ground. If he WAS off the ground, it would be a red because that completely changes the whole dynamic (actually landing on the player). I dunno - I don’t want the game to be mistimed challenge = red. As @WakefieldVillan says, it’s an “orange” situation and I think either decision (yellow and stays on or red and goes off) is valid and wouldn’t be overturned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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