LondonLax Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Will we ever know if he was actually on board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted August 23, 2023 Moderator Share Posted August 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, LondonLax said: Will we ever know if he was actually on board? Depends if, by some chance, they find his passport intact near the crash site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, LondonLax said: Will we ever know if he was actually on board? Probably not, he is/was a master of disguises after all. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted August 23, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 23, 2023 Really sad day for Russia. Not even the hotdog sellers are safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Lifeboats Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 There is a lot of discussion on-line. The heads of Wagner must have suspected they would be killed. Did they arrange things to happen if they came to harm? Wagner is reporting that they were "murdered by Russia traitors." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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avfc1982am Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mandy Lifeboats said: There is a lot of discussion on-line. The heads of Wagner must have suspected they would be killed. Did they arrange things to happen if they came to harm? Wagner is reporting that they were "murdered by Russia traitors." Not sure what the fall out will be if any. If he has gone gone then it's more probable someone of influence within Wagner has made a deal to take the reins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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trekka Posted August 23, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 23, 2023 (edited) Edited August 23, 2023 by trekka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Genie Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Get the troops driving towards Moscow, and don’t bottle it this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 They should be on the phone to zelenskyy and asking if they can fight with them against russia Its not unexpected at all. Everyone in the universe knows putins responsible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Genie said: Get the troops driving towards Moscow, and don’t bottle it this time Hopefully Prighozin had a few tricks up his sleeve should he ever be taken out. Not sure his supporters will be driving to Moscow in a full assault. What we may see though is Russian assassinations rise 10 fold with a few well known Putin subordinates getting taken out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 1 hour ago, LondonLax said: Will we ever know if he was actually on board? It doesn't matter really. If he wasn't he's living in Russia somewhere and he will never surface again. FWIW I'm quite certain he was onboard, he was a dead man walking once he bottled his mutiny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, avfc1982am said: Not sure his supporters will be driving to Moscow in a full assault. What we may see though is Russian assassinations rise 10 fold with a few well known Putin subordinates getting taken out The Wagner Group will just fall apart now. Putin has got what he needed out of them, anything useful in Africa or the middle east will just indirectly come under the control of some obscure branch of the Russian military. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Also is it now safe to assume General Armageddon is also dead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 1 hour ago, LondonLax said: Will we ever know if he was actually on board? Some reports from Russia saying emergency services recovered 7 bodies from the wreckage v the reported 10 on board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 14 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: They should be on the phone to zelenskyy and asking if they can fight with them against russia Its not unexpected at all. Everyone in the universe knows putins responsible No chance they’ll do a deal to work alongside people who killed, raped and robbed tens of thousands of Ukrainians. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 1 minute ago, villa89 said: The Wagner Group will just fall apart now. Putin has got what he needed out of them, anything useful in Africa or the middle east will just indirectly come under the control of some obscure branch of the Russian military. Maybe, and really whet you'd expect. But there will be no doubt people very upset about this if true. I wouldn't be surprised no matter what happens. Russia is just fubar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: Some reports from Russia saying emergency services recovered 7 bodies from the wreckage v the reported 10 on board So, you’re saying 3 people fell out the plane’s windows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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