Mr_Dogg Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Just now, Tomaszk said: England win. 90% of people would disagree with you but ok. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted December 4, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted December 4, 2022 Just now, foreveryoung said: Did we win? No, because Southgate went defensive from 30 minutes after the goal. Would being more adventurous have meant Saka scored his penalty? We were that close to winning. Closer than we've ever been to winning that tournament. Surely you cannot completely trash the fact we got that close? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Did we win? No, because Southgate went defensive from 30 minutes after the goal. 30 mins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Just now, HKP90 said: Would being more adventurous have meant Saka scored his penalty? We were that close to winning. Closer than we've ever been to winning that tournament. Surely you cannot completely trash the fact we got that close? Because of him or in spite of him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mr_Dogg said: 90% of people would disagree with you but ok. That's ok. They're all wrong, and I'm right Wouldn't put it past England to beat France, then lose against an inferior team like Spain or Brazil by shitting themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 I’m not Southgate’s biggest fan, but fair play seems to have learnt from past tournaments. Playing Foden makes sense and it’s not overall defensive team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Steve Bruce had Villa one kick away from promotion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted December 4, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted December 4, 2022 1 minute ago, villa4europe said: Because of him or in spite of him? Did anyone really expect us to comfortably win the Euros before the tournament, just stroll it? I'm not saying Gareth is the best manager gor England, or even a particularly good one, but surely some credit where credit is due. The extent of the hatred seems quite irrational to me at times. Dislike, fine, but for some it's vehement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Just now, mikeyp102 said: I’m not Southgate’s biggest fan, but fair play seems to have learnt from past tournaments. Playing Foden makes sense and it’s not overall defensive team. Wait and see what the full backs do, that's how you can judge Southgate and how defensive he is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Wait and see what the full backs do, that's how you can judge Southgate and how defensive he is I'd say Shaw is pushing up, walker not so much Henderson isn't as deep as Phillips would be either, looks like rice with then 2 ahead of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 11 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: That's ok. They're all wrong, and I'm right Wouldn't put it past England to beat France, then lose against an inferior team like Spain or Brazil by shitting themselves. Your posts confuse me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 What are Senegal doing, they look rubbish and we should be pushing more for goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: What are Senegal doing, they look rubbish and we should be pushing more for goals. First England game? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Just now, Mr_Dogg said: First England game? We are so slow and ponderous, no energy even for the corner, too much in the midfield, never anyone to pass forward too. Horrible set up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Maguire again Ball playing CB... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Walker lucky not to be booked there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 40 minutes ago, Mr_Dogg said: Your posts confuse me Why? Only Gareth Southgate can stop us winning the world cup is my stance. I think that's fair. It's funny how much he gets wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunarsea Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: Why? Only Gareth Southgate can stop us winning the world cup is my stance. I think that's fair. I think it shows a bewilderingly astounding lack of imagination and/or a complete lack of knowledge of football to be unable to come up with any reason bar Southgate for not winning a football match. Kudos for that. I think I would be an awful England manager but even I could come up with more than that. Edited December 4, 2022 by Lunarsea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Lunarsea said: I think it shows a bewilderingly astounding lack of imagination and/or a complete lack of knowledge of football to be unable to come up with any reason bar Southgate for losing a football match. I think I would be an awful England manager but even I could come up with more than that. Nice adjectives. Southgate is a terrible manager. Can't help anyone who doesn't see that. He's hamstrung us already by picking a squad choc full of his favourites. Stones, Maguire and Walker all on the pitch nearly led to us being one down. No doubt in my mind if Phillips had been fit this season he'd be in ahead of Bellingham as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunarsea Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 14 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: Nice adjectives. Southgate is a terrible manager. Can't help anyone who doesn't see that. He's hamstrung us already by picking a squad choc full of his favourites. Stones, Maguire and Walker all on the pitch nearly led to us being one down. No doubt in my mind if Phillips had been fit this season he'd be in ahead of Bellingham as well. If, by your own reckoning,it is all Southgate's fault if we lose a match, is it equally all his fault if we win a match? It should be surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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