Reivax_Villa Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Keith Andrews said something very brief and interesting after the game last night. He pretty much said that Bristol looked the better side because Lee Johnson is a manager that likes to get on the training pitch to coach his players hence why there was always a man waiting to receive the ball whereas Villa were the total opposite we lacked cohesiveness and ideas as a team. Come to think of it when was the last time Villa have had a manager that could really coach his players on the training pitch? SB is a man manager, RDM was a pretender, Remi Garde perhaps? In hindsight we should have really thought about the management from last Summer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 24 minutes ago, Reivax_Villa said: Keith Andrews said something very brief and interesting after the game last night. He pretty much said that Bristol looked the better side because Lee Johnson is a manager that likes to get on the training pitch to coach his players hence why there was always a man waiting to receive the ball whereas Villa were the total opposite we lacked cohesiveness and ideas as a team. Come to think of it when was the last time Villa have had a manager that could really coach his players on the training pitch? SB is a man manager, RDM was a pretender, Remi Garde perhaps? In hindsight we should have really thought about the management from last Summer. I'm not so sure Bruce is a man manager either to be honest . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Norwich 3-0 down to Millwill. Maybe our one amazing performance wasn't that amazing. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Yep, Norwich's away record is as bad as ours, and their record at VP in particular is awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 (edited) It's an okay start to the season. At least now we know Bruce will be here when the transfer window closes. He has got in several of his players, so in September I expect a much higher standard of effort and play. Edited August 26, 2017 by momo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Cardiff also winning again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted August 26, 2017 Moderator Share Posted August 26, 2017 6 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Norwich 3-0 down to Millwill. Maybe our one amazing performance wasn't that amazing. I was going to suggest this last week but decided to keep my head down, I think they are a really poor side this season. I'm not sure anything has really changed or improved. I just don't think we will win enough games under Bruce to go up. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted August 26, 2017 Moderator Share Posted August 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, momo said: It's an okay start to the season. At least now we know Bruce will be here when the transfer window closes. He has got in several of his players, so in September I expect a much higher standard of effort and play. How is it? We are currently 18th with promoted sides above us in the table. I'm struggling to see how it's an okay start. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Isn't Bruce's contract up in October? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 17 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: How is it? We are currently 18th with promoted sides above us in the table. I'm struggling to see how it's an okay start. Exactly. What's ok about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 19 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: I was going to suggest this last week but decided to keep my head down, I think they are a really poor side this season. I'm not sure anything has really changed or improved. I just don't think we will win enough games under Bruce to go up. I don't think there's any chance we win enough games under him. Which with this squad would be one of the biggest failures of his managerial career. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 17 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: I was going to suggest this last week but decided to keep my head down, I think they are a really poor side this season. I'm not sure anything has really changed or improved. I just don't think we will win enough games under Bruce to go up. Para 1 ; yup, said so at the game, Norwich were awful defensively. Para 2. ; brilliant understatement Para 3 ; dead right. We simply don't score anywhere near enough goals and have never looked like doing so. Paras 2 and 3 pretty much sum it all up for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Okay for Millwall maybe. I feel like people still think we're that team treading water in the PL. We're trying to win the league here. 5 points from 5 wouldn't even be okay in the above scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 7 minutes ago, GENTLEMAN said: Isn't Bruce's contract up in October? Indeed. I thought about this last night. Ideal scenario would be they have been exploring opportunities. Probably not though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 15 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: How is it? We are currently 18th with promoted sides above us in the table. I'm struggling to see how it's an okay start. With the cup games, I would say that this is okay for now. Just barely okay. It is not the first 2 games that wins you promotion. It's a marathon, and we will have to wait and see. As I said, I expect more from the players after the international break. Especially since Brucie has got his players in, like Terry, Elmohamady and Snodgrass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Keyblade said: Okay for Millwall maybe. I feel like people still think we're that team treading water in the PL. We're trying to win the league here. 5 points from 5 wouldn't even be okay in the above scenario. Nail on the head! They are so content with mediocrity, they are pleased by "not" losing to Mid to lower table Championship teams, and applaud our "resilience" i.e holding on for dear life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Just now, momo said: With the cup games, I would say that this is okay for now. Just barely okay. It is not the first 2 games that wins you promotion. It's a marathon, and we will have to wait and see. As I said, I expect more from the players after the international break. Especially since Brucie has got his players in, like Terry, Elmohamady and Snodgrass. There's always some period of time before we can expect things to better. Expect more once he signs his own players. Then expect more once those players are settled. Then expect more once he's had a pre season. Now we need the international break. Meanwhile Neil Warnock has Cardiff finishing above us and near the top of the league this season in the same time frame. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Just now, DCJonah said: There's always some period of time before we can expect things to better. Expect more once he signs his own players. Then expect more once those players are settled. Then expect more once he's had a pre season. Now we need the international break. Meanwhile Neil Warnock has Cardiff finishing above us and near the top of the league this season in the same time frame. Sure, this is not an excuse, just a bit of optimism. The kids are doing alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted August 26, 2017 Moderator Share Posted August 26, 2017 Just now, momo said: With the cup games, I would say that this is okay for now. Just barely okay. It is not the first 2 games that wins you promotion. It's a marathon, and we will have to wait and see. As I said, I expect more from the players after the international break. Especially since Brucie has got his players in, like Terry, Elmohamady and Snodgrass. The cup games are, in my view at least, meaningless. We've played lower league opposition and not very good ones at that, the results and performances don't have any positive influence on how I assess the start we've made. We have won 1 from 5 in the league and that was against a side that is really struggling. With the exception of that game and 45 mins against Hull our football has been abysmal and at no point did we look capable of winning the other games. As I said previous newly promoted sides are performing better than us. Its a fairly dismal start in my view there isn't anything okay about it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Just now, TrentVilla said: The cup games are, in my view at least, meaningless. We've played lower league opposition and not very good ones at that, the results and performances don't have any positive influence on how I assess the start we've made. We have won 1 from 5 in the league and that was against a side that is really struggling. With the exception of that game and 45 mins against Hull our football has been abysmal and at no point did we look capable of winning the other games. As I said previous newly promoted sides are performing better than us. Its a fairly dismal start in my view there isn't anything okay about it. Well, I see positive signs. As stated above, the kids are doing well. It could be worse, like 0 points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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