AVFCDAN Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 22 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: There's an interesting chicken-and-egg aspect to this, though - does being a dickhead make you a better manager, or does success make other people more likely to perceive you as a dickhead? 100% the latter. We just hate winners in this country for some reason. It’s the same across all sports. everyone loved Tim Henman but hated Murray, everyone loved Button but hated Hamilton. Every top 4 manager is a knob and every player a horrible word removed. Honestly it’s embarrassing at times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCDAN Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Zatman said: In fairness Arteta and Guardiola plus Klopp are a detestable bunch So basically the entire top 4 apart from Emery . Kind of proving my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 1 minute ago, AVFCDAN said: So basically the entire top 4 apart from Emery . Kind of proving my point. And guess which one the media took the piss out of... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 1 minute ago, AVFCDAN said: So basically the entire top 4 apart from Emery . Kind of proving my point. Ange seems a decent guy too. 2 of them are consistently bullying officials and another is a convicted drugs cheat Thats not a winners attitude 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oishiiniku_uk Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 All the talk today is of Arsenal 'passing the test' at Anfield but they still failed to beat a rival away from home and have 2 from 12 points against top half teams in away games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panto_Villan Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 It’s certainly not unique to Villa fans or football fans in general, but people do seem to go out of their way to find reasons to hate other managers / players. I’m sure if Emery had had any success at Arsenal we’d have a thread full of people sneering at him for some reason or other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post villa4europe Posted December 26, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 26, 2023 Get the **** out of it, TAA missed, rice did absolutely nothing 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 43 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Get the **** out of it, TAA missed, rice did absolutely nothing To true, need to find that clip. What did he do for our goal against Arsenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 1 hour ago, villa4europe said: Get the **** out of it, TAA missed, rice did absolutely nothing That's an insane poster. Rice is a very good footballer, but he isn't a collosus that could or did anything about this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, Dale said: That's an insane poster. Rice is a very good footballer, but he isn't a collosus that could or did anything about this... You can maybe at a push say one thing, that he dropped so deep that salah ended up setting up a one touch finish opportunity whereas if he presses earlier TAA gets 2 or 3 touches to settle before picking a finish But TAA missed, make no doubt about it, it was a miss, it was not a Maldini esque defensive masterclass, it was blind luck from Arsenal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaAlex Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 (edited) Weongbthread Edited December 26, 2023 by VillaAlex Wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPJCB Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 7 hours ago, villa4europe said: Get the **** out of it, TAA missed, rice did absolutely nothing The whole narrative around rice has become silly. Arsenal were statistically better last season at this point and their only big money addition has been rice so why haven’t they’re significantly improved? He’s not performing badly by any means but £100m should be getting you a player that transformatively improves your team (a la Van Dijk at Liverpool) and he simply hasn’t done that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oishiiniku_uk Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 Rice is elite level for interceptions and decent-good in most other respects. I do think there's an amount of overhype due to him being English and having a distinctive running style when he carries the ball forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 5 hours ago, VillaAlex said: Weongbthread Exactly what I thought 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 Overhyped jndeed, If Arsenal win tomorrow they will be 1 point less than they were last season, how is this progress and what more has he contributed, they even lost to Aston Villa with him this season. I wouldn't swap him for Dougie, not a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 15 minutes ago, oishiiniku_uk said: Rice is elite level for interceptions and decent-good in most other respects. I do think there's an amount of overhype due to him being English and having a distinctive running style when he carries the ball forward. Id be interested in his carries and forward passing stats Seems weird to me that arsenal for so long had a ball player in there rather than a ball winner and now they've changed to the ball winner, rice is better than xhaka and partey imo and it's not really even that close... But I'm still not convinced rice is the man that you want taking 80+ touches a game He's good enough to make them better and make them different to something that wasn't working But the real big teams don't play declan rice at DMC, a few (bayern) might have eyed him up as a CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongKongVillan Posted December 26, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 26, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, villa4europe said: Get the **** out of it, TAA missed, rice did absolutely nothing Reminds me of the Simpson episode with the heroic carbon rod. In this instance that rod of a crossbar should have been the hero, not Rice. He just happens to be part of the picture. Embarrassing stuff really Edited December 26, 2023 by HongKongVillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 47 minutes ago, JPJCB said: The whole narrative around rice has become silly. Arsenal were statistically better last season at this point and their only big money addition has been rice so why haven’t they’re significantly improved? He’s not performing badly by any means but £100m should be getting you a player that transformatively improves your team (a la Van Dijk at Liverpool) and he simply hasn’t done that If they win the league they will consider it a bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 10 minutes ago, LondonLax said: If they win the league they will consider it a bargain. No one else will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: No one else will. No I think they will... I thought timber was going to be the bigger signing as their defence during the run in was laughable Still think the biggest thing they needed and still need is an out and out striker, £100m striker would have made a bigger impact 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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