villan95 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) Strange what people now laud as a good, title challenging Arsenal side would have been deemed a failure under Wenger. Edited December 31, 2023 by villan95 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 On any given season anyone keeping up with Man C is having a great season. Even when City are faltering a bit by their standards. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 31, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, sne said: On any given season anyone keeping up with Man C is having a great season. Even when City are faltering a bit by their standards. What gets me is people seem surprised when Man City come back into it. Seems like most seasons they have a little blip before Christmas, everyone thinks they aren’t in it that season and then they go on an insane run and win the league at a canter 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sne Posted December 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) 19 hours ago, Stevo985 said: What gets me is people seem surprised when Man City come back into it. Seems like most seasons they have a little blip before Christmas, everyone thinks they aren’t in it that season and then they go on an insane run and win the league at a canter Game yesterday the Swedish studio and commentators were bleating on about how City have such a thin squad and that's why they've "struggled" this season. GTFO, they have a stronger squad than arguably anyone in football. Edited January 1 by sne 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 31, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) 50 minutes ago, sne said: Game yesterday the Swedish studio and commentators where bleating on about how City have such a thin squad and that's why they've "struggled" this season. GTFO, they have a stronger squad than arguably anyone in football. And they’re top if they win their game in hand. Really struggling Edited December 31, 2023 by Stevo985 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 53 minutes ago, villan95 said: Strange what people now laud as a good, title challenging Arsenal side would have been deemed a failure under Wenger. Wenger was celebrating scraping into 4th by the end. He wasn’t challenging for titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, LondonLax said: Wenger was celebrating scraping into 4th by the end. He wasn’t challenging for titles. But what I always liked about him was he was winning things, they won 3 or 4 FA cups at the death of Wenger didn't they? It's sad how celebrated say spurs have become when they've actually done nothing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdabush Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Stevo985 said: And they’re top if they win their game in hand. Really struggling Obviously point stands regardless but they don't have a game in hand over Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Only thing holding Arsenal back is the man in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 14 minutes ago, kurtsimonw said: Only thing holding Arsenal back is the man in charge. Disagree The only thing holding arsenal back is man city being too good, same as Liverpool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted December 31, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, villan95 said: Strange what people now laud as a good, title challenging Arsenal side would have been deemed a failure under Wenger. Arsenal challenged for zero titles in the last 10 seasons under Wegner... The last season they realistically had a chance to win the title was 07/08 Edited December 31, 2023 by Villan_of_oz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted December 31, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 31, 2023 14 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Disagree The only thing holding arsenal back is man city being too good, same as Liverpool They had the title in their own hands last season.... They lost it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Villan_of_oz said: They had the title in their own hands last season.... They lost it Or.... Saka played 60 games last season whereas Grealish foden and Mahrez played 40... I'm looking already at the business end of this season thinking declan rice has started 25 games, rodri has started 20, not only will that gap get bigger but man city have kovacic waiting in the wings and then you say OK but arsenal have jorginho and then you say but man city have £50m phillips (!) but seriously man city's rotation is untouchable, I'm not a believer that arsenal bottled it last year more that man city's rotation is inevitable, it's what won them the trebel and for as exciting as they'll make this year out to be they will win it all again 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frodo Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 For me Arsenal blew there title chances in the summer window £170 on Havertz & Rice, don't get me wrong Rice is a cracking player but they didn't need strengthening the midfield & Havertz well enough said about him, Chelsea must of been pissing themselves when Arsenal handed over £65 million. They need & needed a striker last season & they didn't do anything in the summer to fix it, should of gone all in for Victor Osimhen £100 million +. Man City or Liverpool will win the league they have the fire power. Glad to see them stuttering again, can't stand there intitled fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted December 31, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Or.... Saka played 60 games last season whereas Grealish foden and Mahrez played 40... I'm looking already at the business end of this season thinking declan rice has started 25 games, rodri has started 20, not only will that gap get bigger but man city have kovacic waiting in the wings and then you say OK but arsenal have jorginho and then you say but man city have £50m phillips (!) but seriously man city's rotation is untouchable, I'm not a believer that arsenal bottled it last year more that man city's rotation is inevitable, it's what won them the trebel and for as exciting as they'll make this year out to be they will win it all again So who picked Saka for 60 matches, and refused to sub him many times when he didn't need to be on the pitch...... Arteta. Better manager would have managed his squad better.... They definitely bottled it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Villan_of_oz said: So who picked Saka for 60 matches, and refused to sub him many times when he didn't need to be on the pitch...... Arteta. Better manager would have managed his squad better.... They definitely bottled it Subbed him for who? Arsenal are swapping saka for ESR (who I'm sure had a bad injury last season?) or Neilson That's what I'm trying say, man city have Doku injured they swap him out for £100m Grealish, or alvarez There's still a huge gulf between the 2 clubs, like £200-500m between them... Edit - I'm half passed throwing numbers out here but arsenals £700m team threw it away to man city's £1.5bn team last year and everyone looked at arsenal and asked how... Edited December 31, 2023 by villa4europe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie09 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 4 hours ago, VillaChris said: Nketieh really isn't good enough for them. I actually wouldn't swop Duran for him. Gareth thinks he’s a better option than Ollie! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted December 31, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 31, 2023 18 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Subbed him for who? Arsenal are swapping saka for ESR (who I'm sure had a bad injury last season?) or Neilson That's what I'm trying say, man city have Doku injured they swap him out for £100m Grealish, or alvarez There's still a huge gulf between the 2 clubs, like £200-500m between them... Edit - I'm half passed throwing numbers out here but arsenals £700m team threw it away to man city's £1.5bn team last year and everyone looked at arsenal and asked how... I definitely remember Saka picking up an injury in the last 15 minutes of a match when the result was sorted, I am not completely disagreeing with your general point but they lost the title last season imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 29 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Or.... Saka played 60 games last season whereas Grealish foden and Mahrez played 40... I'm looking already at the business end of this season thinking declan rice has started 25 games, rodri has started 20, not only will that gap get bigger but man city have kovacic waiting in the wings and then you say OK but arsenal have jorginho and then you say but man city have £50m phillips (!) but seriously man city's rotation is untouchable, I'm not a believer that arsenal bottled it last year more that man city's rotation is inevitable, it's what won them the trebel and for as exciting as they'll make this year out to be they will win it all again Arteta has spent £700m, whilst inheriting Saka, Saliba and Martinelli who Emery bought in to the side. Pep does have a few misses when it comes to transfers, but Arteta seems to get it horribly wrong most of the time and leaves him with no depth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 34 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Or.... Saka played 60 games last season whereas Grealish foden and Mahrez played 40... I'm looking already at the business end of this season thinking declan rice has started 25 games, rodri has started 20, not only will that gap get bigger but man city have kovacic waiting in the wings and then you say OK but arsenal have jorginho and then you say but man city have £50m phillips (!) but seriously man city's rotation is untouchable, I'm not a believer that arsenal bottled it last year more that man city's rotation is inevitable, it's what won them the trebel and for as exciting as they'll make this year out to be they will win it all again Rodri has missed 4 league games through suspension and 2 dead rubber Champions League games. Has started every other game when available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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