blandy Posted December 5, 2018 Author Moderator Share Posted December 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, snowychap said: Ah. My mistake. Having chided Peter for being a bit tunnel vision on something in another thread, I have done precisely the same here. Apologies. Your comment applies equally, pretty much to the pair of them, regardless. I thought it was spot on. These narrow minded, small brained Home Counties Tory types are a menace. They have no understanding, no width or breadth of appreciation and if things don’t turn out as they want them to, they just try to tilt the table. Appalling people utterly unfit to be anywhere near government. I detest them. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted December 5, 2018 Moderator Share Posted December 5, 2018 34 minutes ago, peterms said: Regrets, I've had a few... He's not fighting back tears, he's just done a Guinness fart and he's trying to see if it's going to linger. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 After the worst day for a Government in Parliament in living memory, Shami Chakrabati goes on the Today programme and thinks "we need to do something to show we're just as hopeless as the other lot" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 31 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said: He's not fighting back tears, he's just done a Guinness fart and he's trying to see if it's going to linger. Both could be true, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 40 minutes ago, blandy said: Your comment applies equally, pretty much to the pair of them, regardless. I thought it was spot on. These narrow minded, small brained Home Counties Tory types are a menace. They have no understanding, no width or breadth of appreciation and if things don’t turn out as they want them to, they just try to tilt the table. Appalling people utterly unfit to be anywhere near government. I detest them. Yes. But what is startling is the apparent lack of understanding of how to build support, or even the need to do so, which is supposed to be the core competence of politicians. Apparently May went to the Members' tea room the other day in an effort to be seen to be available to MPs, and it was claimed she didn't know what to do or where to get her food, because it's been so long since she was there; such a gesture can only be seen as superficial, insincere, cynical, and meaningless, and is likely to reinforce negative perceptions of her aloofness. And Leadweight telling off MPs for not accepting being treated with contempt is rather like a shopkeeper who berates his customers for returning faulty goods - you might resent it, but on no account say so, because there's nothing you can gain and you will only create anger. Situations like the present one tend to magnify the importance of what may seem little things like this. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Popcorn.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Gotta love this normal, healthy political debate we have these days: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 2 hours ago, NurembergVillan said: He's not fighting back tears, he's just done a Guinness fart and he's trying to see if it's going to linger. that would be a Cranberry fart surely ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted December 5, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted December 5, 2018 Interesting to note that it seems legal advice over the withdrawal agreement was only sought once Parliament asked for it. Completely stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) From the legal advice: Seems appropriate. Quote The Sanctuary provides a safe place for individuals experiencing an emotional or mental health crisis. Edited December 5, 2018 by peterms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted December 5, 2018 Moderator Share Posted December 5, 2018 11 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: that would be a Cranberry fart surely ? "In your heeeeeaaaaad, they are farting" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrusr Posted December 5, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted December 5, 2018 Link to the "full" legal advice 5 1/2 pages of stuff that does not require a QC to tell everyone what's wrong with the deal. Apart from it confirming what everyone is saying, why were they so intent on keeping this secret? Country's in the hands of idiots. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted December 5, 2018 Moderator Share Posted December 5, 2018 43 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: that would be a Cranberry fart surely ? This is a Delores reference not a fruit one isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted December 5, 2018 Moderator Share Posted December 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, cyrusr said: Link to the "full" legal advice 5 1/2 pages of stuff that does not require a QC to tell everyone what's wrong with the deal. Apart from it confirming what everyone is saying, why were they so intent on keeping this secret? Country's in the hands of idiots. Surely that's the shortened version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, bickster said: Surely that's the shortened version? Apparently the original was only six pages - the thing from t'other day was padded with fluff to hide the difficult bits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted December 5, 2018 Moderator Share Posted December 5, 2018 So the NI backstop is indefinite. And there's no chance to unilaterally revoke it. Contempt AND lying to parliament. Great work, Mrs May. Strong and stable? Wrong and shambolic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 21 hours ago, NurembergVillan said: Hopefully, Steve Bruce's cabbage will make another appearance. That cabbage did not belong to Steve Bruce. That was the peoples cabbage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted December 5, 2018 Moderator Share Posted December 5, 2018 6 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: Gotta love this normal, healthy political debate we have these days: People are trying to steal the money he was promised for getting medical insurance companies into the NHS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 9 hours ago, ml1dch said: After the worst day for a Government in Parliament in living memory, Shami Chakrabati goes on the Today programme and thinks "we need to do something to show we're just as hopeless as the other lot" My little heart sank this morning listening to that interview. She just sounded like she'd done no revision and hadn't expected to be asked any questions. If a general election happens, Labour are a million miles away from home and dry. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted December 5, 2018 Moderator Share Posted December 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: My little heart sank this morning listening to that interview. She just sounded like she'd done no revision and hadn't expected to be asked any questions. If a general election happens, Labour are a million miles away from home and dry. The country is actually becoming desperate for a Pro-remain Centrist Party, whether it knows it or not is another matter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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