Chindie Posted June 27, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted June 27, 2016 The Remain campaign was dreadful, no strong through line, muddled and disjointed. The Leave campaign a never ending pack of lies and nasty undertones. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted June 27, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted June 27, 2016 5 minutes ago, villakram said: AAA rating gone. Cameron is nailed on for the history books now, muppet! Following in Moody's footsteps. Luckily the situation is such it shouldn't matter too much, but its still damning. There isn't a 'good' loss of rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 (edited) 20 minutes ago, villakram said: AAA rating gone. Cameron is nailed on for the history books now, muppet! If you offered me the choice of being in the history books as "the PM that took the UK out of the EU, ripped apart the UK by motivating Scottish independence and a unified Ireland, and took the Pound to its lowest point in several decades, all to hold on to power for one more year", versus being in the history books as "the PM that stuck his cock in a dead pig's mouth", I know what I'd choose. Edited June 27, 2016 by Davkaus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted June 27, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted June 27, 2016 I wonder if there are more than a few in Whitehall getting their ears bent by very rich and powerful interests from the world of finance and business...? And if so, how long are they going to ignore them? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 1 hour ago, villakram said: AAA rating gone. Cameron is nailed on for the history books now, muppet! To be fair, ratings from credit rating agencies aren't important. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 (edited) 13 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: To be fair, ratings from credit rating agencies aren't important. Not true. Many many investment/financial rules are based on them. The rights/wrongs of this are another discussion altogether. Edited June 27, 2016 by villakram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Brexit to blame for England losing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted June 27, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted June 27, 2016 3 minutes ago, villakram said: Not true. Many many investment/financial rules are based on them. That I work in a field that features them quite heavily. They're quite important in some fields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 1 hour ago, OutByEaster? said: Operation Fudge is underway. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 11 hours ago, choffer said: Maybe he's hedging his bets in having a backup plan. I know* he's been making a lot of calls to and about the foreign office this weekend though. * Obviously I don't "know" but I have a relatively good source. Didn't we both just miss the joke, i.e. that a lot of the 'phone calls he made this weekend contained the phrase F Off Osborne? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 41 minutes ago, villakram said: Not true. Many many investment/financial rules are based on them. The rights/wrongs of this are another discussion altogether. You're right of course, I'm being simplistic. They matter in as much as people pay attention to them, and they are used for financial decisions. They are, however, based on very very little in the way of solid information. They even admit this, when they are put under pressure for misrating a bond, when they will claim that they are just offering an opinion. They always lag market information, and you could have quite a strong investment strategy betting against Standard & Poor's. The basic point here is that there are many, many things wrong with Brexit, but a credit rating agency downgrade isn't really one of them. Their downgrade is, as usual, lagging behind the financial chaos, which is what actually matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itdoesntmatterwhatthissay Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 (edited) On 6/21/2016 at 10:48, tonyh29 said: on the subject of food I read an article that says the EU dump billions of cheap food on Africa whist tariffs make it neigh on impossible for African farmers to compete , end result Africa stays poor and we send Africa £xxxx million a year in Aid whilst they stay poor ... Africa can't sell coffee to the EU as it carries a 7.5% tariff , so it has to sell unroasted green coffee which is a tariff free .. as a rough idea Africa producing the coffee gets $2.4 bn , Germany gets $3.8bn from coffee re-exports 30% is the tariff on Cocoa beans I believe I'm sure there is a better way that works for everyone ? Wow, now that's the sort of info we should be getting. Thanks so much for posting senor, straight to the research bookmarks! We needed some positive ones too, that might have helped us with proper and not token reform. I've been at Glasto (where my brexit opinion did not go down well) but I was bloody shocked we left, I really didn't see it coming. However after all the left wing nonsense this weekend it's become much easier to comprehend why we voted leave. Think I just read the article, I'm not surprised in the slightest. And even less surprised that nothing has changed, for desire or reducing bureaucracy. Edited June 27, 2016 by itdoesntmatterwhatthissay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 (edited) Brexit was like the battle of the Somme. A hell of a lot of noise in the eight days leading up to it. Delusional intelligence. Promises of a walkover. Mass slaughter. The only result: a bloody big hole to look into. Edited June 27, 2016 by MakemineVanilla 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 These joke petitions going around are about as funny as AIDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted June 27, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted June 27, 2016 Boris Johnson your pensions are safe. The Pound and stock markets are stable. The sky is green. Everything is OK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 (edited) The petition for another referendum, that got millions of signatures, was actually started by a brexit supporter from Telford, a few weeks ago, because he thought that they were going to lose. Story about it in Shropshire Star. Edited June 27, 2016 by useless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 5 minutes ago, useless said: The petition for another referendum, that got millions of signatures, was actually started by a brexit supporter from Telford, a few weeks ago, because he thought that they were going to lose. Story about it in Shropshire Star. And now there's a new joke one about it every day. "PETITION TO RETAKE 1996 PENALTY SHOUTOUT" HAHAHAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 We must be the laughing stock of the world right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Giddyup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 2 hours ago, sharkyvilla said: We must be the laughing stock of the world right now. Right now you're making us look like professionals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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