Xann Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 hour ago, tonyh29 said: Local policy at the moment is to build about 80,000 houses on green belt land in the area /surrounding areas and a 6 lane super dual carriageway straight through the village i live in .... that's a Tory council pushing from funds form the government to do this ( seems like there are pots of money for regeneration projects that councils apply \ fight for ? ) Are you paraphrasing, or is that the terminology used in official notification? 'Regeneration' on Green Belt land is leaving a field to lie fallow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, ml1dch said: On the second point, it would presumably be hypothetically possible for Johnson to turn up and have to leave halfway through after losing a confidence vote. Although I suppose he'd still technically still be Prime Minister so probably wouldn't. Or could he use the excuse of the vote as a reason not to go? Important political considerations at home, &c. Or if he is there, do the other leaders reject whatever he does and says to them (other than him handing over a letter as per Benn-Burt) on the basis that he's quite likely to be ousted at home and thus there may be no future in dealing with him? I'm just wondering whether the choice of the 14th October for the Queen's Speech might have been for the purpose of muddying everything up - Queen's Speech/VoNC/EU Council. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted September 9, 2019 Author Moderator Share Posted September 9, 2019 4 hours ago, tonyh29 said: here's a better scenario (not a prediction, btw): Boris using the same legal process that remainers were happy to accept when it was working for them successfully over rules Parliament. We leave with no deal. The economy doesn't collapse , the NHS aren't overloaded with millions of cases of Chlorinated chicken poisoning and Tesco don't run out of bread . The election produces a landslide Tory Parliament. The broad left finally gets its act together enough to vandalise the statue of Churchill and 37 central London McDonalds , with Corbyn still claiming he won the election and refusing to stand from leading the labour party , Tom Watson starts a campaign of smears and lies about Corbyn and Dolphin Square . Corbyn is assassinated . A public holiday is declared. I see hallucinogenic drugs are already legal in that there "down South" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 If that bumbling word removed uses the word 'frit' again today in Parliament then I'd like to see someone grab the mace and knock him out with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 44 minutes ago, Xann said: Are you paraphrasing, or is that the terminology used in official notification? 'Regeneration' on Green Belt land is leaving a field to lie fallow. Paraphrasing .. some of it is probably more Brownfield but there has been a bit of trickery going on as well in defining the land as such Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 34 minutes ago, blandy said: I see hallucinogenic drugs are already legal in that there "down South" made from powdered unicorn horn ..its potent stuff 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted September 9, 2019 Moderator Share Posted September 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: Paraphrasing .. some of it is probably more Brownfield but there has been a bit of trickery going on as well in defining the land as such Like when Ellis got green sand and spray paint to make the pitch at VP look better on telly? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 (edited) From The Grauniad: Quote The SNP’s Ronnie Cowan asks if, in the event of a vote of no confidence, the PM could just run down the clock for 14 days without recommending an alternative PM to the Queen. Sedwill confirms that that is the case. Sedwill suggests that, following a vote of no confidence, the prime minster would not be obliged to suggest an alternative PM to the Queen. Edited September 9, 2019 by snowychap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted September 9, 2019 Author Moderator Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 hour ago, meregreen said: I like what he writes. It's alright, it'll change soon, for money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, blandy said: It's alright, it'll change soon, for money. Honestly, I read him in the Guardian, I hear him on Newsnight. He’s an up front Socialist who gives the Tories both barrels. In a media environment where the Right have a weighted advantage over the Left, I think he’s okay. Edited September 9, 2019 by meregreen 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted September 9, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted September 9, 2019 40 minutes ago, meregreen said: Honestly, I read him in the Guardian, I hear him on Newsnight. He’s an up front Socialist who gives the Tories both barrels. In a media environment where the Right have a weighted advantage over the Left, I think he’s okay. So do I. When it comes to politics I'll take a slightly irritating socialist over an affable Tory any day. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted September 9, 2019 Moderator Share Posted September 9, 2019 Traitors listed in official documentation - 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 hour ago, tonyh29 said: Paraphrasing .. some of it is probably more Brownfield but there has been a bit of trickery going on as well in defining the land as such You and your neighbours are all being ****ed over by Tories so a handful of suits can make a sack of cash. Not just that, they've diddled due process to make it happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted September 9, 2019 Author Moderator Share Posted September 9, 2019 4 hours ago, meregreen said: Honestly, I read him in the Guardian, I hear him on Newsnight. He’s an up front Socialist who gives the Tories both barrels. In a media environment where the Right have a weighted advantage over the Left, I think he’s okay. I used to read him regularly when he was in the Independent Newspaper, and a bit when he moved to the Grauniad, but he sort of lost me with his flip on Corbyn and with his flip and double standards and contradictions on the anti-semitism stuff. I think I've just come to the conclusion that most, if not all, political columnists are deliberately forcefully strident and completely shameless in flipping their paid-for opinions from time to time, even deliberately to create hits and readership and recognition. He's not the worst by a long way, but he's gone down in my estimation as a lot less principled than I thought he was. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Apparently Theresa May's resignation honours recommendations might make people a bit angry. Lord Timothy of Aston has a rather unpleasant smell about it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, blandy said: I used to read him regularly when he was in the Independent Newspaper, and a bit when he moved to the Grauniad, but he sort of lost me with his flip on Corbyn and with his flip and double standards and contradictions on the anti-semitism stuff. I think I've just come to the conclusion that most, if not all, political columnists are deliberately forcefully strident and completely shameless in flipping their paid-for opinions from time to time, even deliberately to create hits and readership and recognition. He's not the worst by a long way, but he's gone down in my estimation as a lot less principled than I thought he was. I was working a cover shift in a news room, when the local MP - who had found himself in a little bit of trouble, turned up and sat drinking with the editor, having a right laugh. Did that MP find himself in the paper? Did he heck. Saw it a lot. Stopped working as a "news" journalist, moved into marketing and Comms. Almost gave up working in media completely. Mostly, it's an old boys club. "Here's the angle" but that's not the truth? "I'll give it to xxxxx then" and then you end up in the shit with no decent stories. Fact Edited September 9, 2019 by avfcDJ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 The S024 debate on Prorogation/Yellowhammer stuff ends with Gove demonstrating just how much of a utter prick he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 17 minutes ago, snowychap said: The S024 debate on Prorogation/Yellowhammer stuff ends with Gove demonstrating just how much of a utter prick he is. Govt defeat. Is that now 5-0? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Govt defeat. Is that now 5-0? Soon to be 6-0, I'd imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, snowychap said: Soon to be 6-0, I'd imagine. You'd think. Incidentally, five makes it more Commons defeats already than Tony Blair had in ten years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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