tonyh29 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 and not gone .. spineless cabinet appears to be spineless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 14, 2018 Moderator Share Posted November 14, 2018 She just said it allows us to "Take back control" *speechless* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 14, 2018 Moderator Share Posted November 14, 2018 1 minute ago, tonyh29 said: and not gone .. spineless cabinet appears to be spineless I'm not sure the stable door has been bolted yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Just now, bickster said: I'm not sure the stable door has been bolted yet i know ... just stocking up on popcorn , it's gonna be a long night but someone should have resigned by now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, bickster said: She just said it allows us to "Take back control" *speechless* But it was a given that the trite, lying phrases be trotted out, whatever the content and substance of the deal. The PR people would have started with those as a structure, slotting details in around them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted November 14, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted November 14, 2018 41 minutes ago, PompeyVillan said: I can't see how this can good, unless it leads to another referendum or general election. It'll hopefully signify the speeding up of the crumbling of one of the worst governments in living memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 14, 2018 Moderator Share Posted November 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: i know ... just stocking up on popcorn , it's gonna be a long night but someone should have resigned by now Morning, after a nights hard reflection would be my guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted November 14, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted November 14, 2018 She's a rat that won't go down with the the ship. Rather than jump like every sensible rat, she makes deals with the sea to keep the flotsam afloat for just one more day. And then it does it again. And again. Hopefully eventually it stops working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, bickster said: Morning, after a nights hard organising would be my guess Ftfy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 14, 2018 Moderator Share Posted November 14, 2018 1 minute ago, peterms said: Ftfy Well yes, obviously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted November 14, 2018 Moderator Share Posted November 14, 2018 She did offer us all three options right? This deal, no deal or no Brexit? That's progress of sorts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 9 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: She did offer us all three options right? This deal, no deal or no Brexit? That's progress of sorts. Well, at least she accepts it's a possibility. If she forces it as a choice between her deal or no deal, it would obviously have to be her deal because no deal is brain-dead. She won't give parliament anything like a meaningful vote on Brexit. She might have to see through a vote of no confidence, but I can't see her being deposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 13 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: She did offer us all three options right? This deal, no deal or no Brexit? That's progress of sorts. Well that's what she said. Quote When you strip away the detail the choice before us is clear. This deal, which delivers on the vote of the referendum, which brings us back control of our money, laws and borders, ends free movement, protects jobs, security and our union, or leave with no deal, or no Brexit at all. But the mechanism for no Brexit (in her terms) is unclear, since she stated today in parliament that there will be no second referendum, and she is trying to prevent the courts from saying whether A50 is unilaterally revocable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 14, 2018 Moderator Share Posted November 14, 2018 7 minutes ago, peterms said: Well that's what she said. But the mechanism for no Brexit (in her terms) is unclear, since she stated today in parliament that there will be no second referendum, and she is trying to prevent the courts from saying whether A50 is unilaterally revocable. Shes already failed in the latter, its gone to the ECJ for a ruling already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, bickster said: Shes already failed in the latter, its gone to the ECJ for a ruling already Yes, I posted that a few days ago. I think there is now no scope for further delay, and we are expecting a judgement on a short timescale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 14, 2018 Moderator Share Posted November 14, 2018 1 minute ago, peterms said: Yes, I posted that a few days ago. I think there is now no scope for further delay, and we are expecting a judgement on a short timescale? Well I can't see the EU side holding it up and its in everyone's interest to get clarity (we apart from May / Brexiteers who spent a small fortune attempting to stymie it) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 So reports suggest that 11 out of 29 cabinet members spoke against the deal. This should be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Chindie said: It'll hopefully signify the speeding up of the crumbling of one of the worst governments in living memory. One of?! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Tabloids should be fun in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 14, 2018 Moderator Share Posted November 14, 2018 51 minutes ago, peterms said: Yes, I posted that a few days ago. I think there is now no scope for further delay, and we are expecting a judgement on a short timescale? A bit of digging sees references to November 27th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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