snowychap Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 (edited) 38 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: Grayling that's been in the job for how many months Edited: Since the day after May became PM. Plenty of time to 'work his magic'. Edited November 9, 2018 by snowychap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted November 9, 2018 Author Moderator Share Posted November 9, 2018 48 minutes ago, bickster said: No they don't. EU Directive 91/440 expressly forbids it No officer with false teeth should attempt oral sex in zero gravity? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted November 9, 2018 Author Moderator Share Posted November 9, 2018 Actually that may be the wrong one. Given it's grayling, perhaps "not letting a crew-member aboard if he may, in fact, be a brain-sucking psychotic temporal lobe slurper" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 51 minutes ago, bickster said: No they don't. EU Directive 91/440 expressly forbids it The Scotland Act of 2016 allows Public sector bodies to bid for railway franchises , so it would remove shareholders from the equation (which was Xaan's comment I was referring to) , think you are talking about re-nationalising the railways ( which wasn't mentioned ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 54 minutes ago, Xann said: How could we possibly blame the man that sat on his hands during the Southern fiasco? feel free , long as we are agreed that we blame Brown for global financial crises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Just now, tonyh29 said: feel free , long as we are agreed that we blame Brown for global financial crises Sorry, I'm not that thick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 29 minutes ago, Xann said: Sorry, I'm not that thick. as you missed the irony of the post , that could be up for debate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 (edited) Jo Johnson making his own play for leader at some point ? be quite amusing to see 2 brothers battle it out for a leadership election , hope one of them doens't doing anything untoward like stab the other one in the back Edited November 9, 2018 by tonyh29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 9, 2018 Moderator Share Posted November 9, 2018 3 hours ago, Xann said: Do the the SNP have the powers to merge rail maintenance with the service providers and remove shareholders from the equation? 1 1 hour ago, tonyh29 said: The Scotland Act of 2016 allows Public sector bodies to bid for railway franchises , so it would remove shareholders from the equation (which was Xaan's comment I was referring to) , think you are talking about re-nationalising the railways ( which wasn't mentioned ) Not the same thing, the shareholders part is irrelevant. EU Directive 91/440 prevents rail maintenance and service providers being the same body, in that there must be transparent fees between the two separate entities i.e. the rail infrastructure body charging the rail service provider for use of the rail infrastructure. It's the Swedes we have to blame for that particular mess, it was their experiment that led to the 1991 EU Directive Edit: a cursory glance at Swedish Railways makes me think they didn't give the experiment enough time to prove how crap it was, Bankrupt companies and the worst performing high speed trains in Europe and possibly the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, bickster said: Not the same thing, the shareholders part is irrelevant. EU Directive 91/440 prevents rail maintenance and service providers being the same body, in that there must be transparent fees between the two separate entities i.e. the rail infrastructure body charging the rail service provider for use of the rail infrastructure. It's the Swedes we have to blame for that particular mess, it was their experiment that led to the 1991 EU Directive ah , got you .....if only there was something we could do about EU directives so the original posting was blaming the government over something it can't legally control anyway ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 9, 2018 Moderator Share Posted November 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: ah , got you .....if only there was something we could do about EU directives so the original posting was blaming the government over something it can't legally control anyway ? You are Jeremy Corblimey, I claim my £5 That's his argument for leaving the EU, when all we actually need is to have two separate nationalised industries (just like nearly every other EU country) On the second part, firstly it was the SNP that was being blamed and yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Which one is Joe Johnson? Is he the one that had a minor hit with 'it's different for girls'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 9, 2018 Moderator Share Posted November 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: Which one is Joe Johnson? Is he the one that had a minor hit with 'it's different for girls'? No Silly that was the Rev. Jesse Jackson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 55 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: Which one is Joe Johnson? Is he the one that had a minor hit with 'it's different for girls'? Snooker player iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted November 9, 2018 Author Moderator Share Posted November 9, 2018 3 hours ago, tonyh29 said: think you are talking about re-nationalising the railways There's nothing in the EU laws to prevent that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 hour ago, chrisp65 said: Which one is Joe Johnson? Is he the one that had a minor hit with 'it's different for girls'? Nah, he's the guy who directed Jumanji and Honey I Shrunk The Kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhatAboutTheFinish Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 hour ago, chrisp65 said: Which one is Joe Johnson? Is he the one that had a minor hit with 'it's different for girls'? Well at least he has proven record of success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 hour ago, blandy said: There's nothing in the EU laws to prevent that. you’d have to keep rails and trains separate and where you have capacity allow other providers to bid to run trains ... it can be circumvented but I believe there is a law in place (4th railway package ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 9, 2018 Moderator Share Posted November 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: you’d have to keep rails and trains separate and where you have capacity allow other providers to bid to run trains ... it can be circumvented but I believe there is a law in place (4th railway package ) you allow privatised freight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 17 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: you’d have to keep rails and trains separate Maglev style? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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