Popular Post wishywashy Posted November 22, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2023 (edited) Absolutely vile. They don't even realise (or care) that it's their decades of failed, evil policy that are to blame. Stockton-on-Tees and the surrounding area was huge on industry: wonder whose deindustrialisation policies in the 1980s ensured long-term poverty within these areas... And whose subsequent governments couldn't give a toss about (since it's not London)... And what a disgusting excuse of a human being Cleverly is. Edited November 22, 2023 by wishywashy 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 It's a real shame sometimes that MP's need to direct their questions and comments to the chair. I'd very much have enjoyed this fellow being able to call James Cleverly a word removed to his face in the chamber. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 25 minutes ago, bickster said: Joking aside, changing the rate in January as opposed to April (which would be normal for an Autumn Budget statement) might hint at a May election / suicide Not sure. There was criticism that no tax cuts were going to come into effect until next financial year and working people needed it ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted November 22, 2023 Moderator Share Posted November 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, desensitized43 said: It's a real shame sometimes that MP's need to direct their questions and comments to the chair. I'd very much have enjoyed this fellow being able to call James Cleverly a word removed to his face in the chamber. He's clearly livid. He's visibly shaking. Could do with a bunch of the top lads from the local comp meeting these posh clearings in the woods outside the gates and filling them in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 19 minutes ago, desensitized43 said: It's a real shame sometimes that MP's need to direct their questions and comments to the chair. I'd very much have enjoyed this fellow being able to call James Cleverly a word removed to his face in the chamber. Clearly livid, as he made this point. Cleverly denying it will make it extra difficult for him, and Sunak, when the irrefutable evidence is show that he is lying about his disgusting remark. Another week of Sunak backing him before eventually sacking him is my prediction (unless there is a swift apology). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted November 22, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 22, 2023 45 minutes ago, bickster said: Joking aside, changing the rate in January as opposed to April (which would be normal for an Autumn Budget statement) might hint at a May election / suicide Please, please, please, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 Is there a calculator online yet which can show how much the NI reduction returns to take home pay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted November 22, 2023 Moderator Share Posted November 22, 2023 These Home Secretary's always seem such a nice bunch of lads and lasses eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 22, 2023 Moderator Share Posted November 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, Genie said: Is there a calculator online yet which can show how much the NI reduction returns to take home pay? 2% of your wage between £12750 and £50270) I'm presuming the only 2% above £50270 that higher rate payer pay remains as a 2% reduction there would be zero to pay over the upper limit. I think my back of the fag packet calculation for myself put it at about £14 and a bit a week for me as I'm just on the upper threshold 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 The UK is what the aftermath of a massive con looks like. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted November 22, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, Genie said: Another week of Sunak backing him before eventually sacking him is my prediction (unless there is a swift apology). Why do they never, ever, ever see this. Fess up and apologise and you might make it thorough. Go for the denial and the story builds and builds until it becomes a total embarrassment and action has to be taken. But they never learn. It does show the complete lack of understanding and callous lack of empathy these people have. Children aren't living in poverty BECASUE a place is a shit hole. They're living in poverty because your actions and policies have made it a shit hole. Hence the justifiable question in the first place. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted November 22, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 22, 2023 Did Stockton North appear on our recent list of British Shit Holes...And if not why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, bickster said: 2% of your wage between £12750 and £50270) I'm presuming the only 2% above £50270 that higher rate payer pay remains as a 2% reduction there would be zero to pay over the upper limit. I think my back of the fag packet calculation for myself put it at about £14 and a bit a week for me as I'm just on the upper threshold Cheers, I just found this Quote The chancellor has announced significant cuts to national insurance that employees and self-employed workers have to pay. Some of the changes will take effect as soon as January 2024, and will save workers up to £754 a year in national insurance. The impact of April’s change to national insurance will depend on whether or not you are self-employed, and how much you earn. Employees will pay a 10% rate of national insurance on earnings between £12,570 to £50,270 a year from 6 January, down from 12%. This will save the average employee £450 a year, according to the Treasury. link So to get the full benefit you’d need to earn over £50,270, and you’d see around £62.80 extra in the monthly wage packet. Edited November 22, 2023 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 22, 2023 Moderator Share Posted November 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, Genie said: o to get the full benefit you’d need to earn over £50,270, and you’d see around £62.80 extra in the monthly wage packet. Yep, thats around what I worked it out at 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 22 minutes ago, sidcow said: Did Stockton North appear on our recent list of British Shit Holes...And if not why not? It's got some pretty stiff competition. After 13 years of these words removed, I'm hard pressed to think of many places in Britain that aren't shitholes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted November 22, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Davkaus said: It's got some pretty stiff competition. After 13 years of these words removed, I'm hard pressed to think of many places in Britain that aren't shitholes. Most of the places with Tory MPs aren't shitholes, though usually (and perhaps counterintuitively, given that one usually comes out of the other in biology) filled with arseholes, so swings and roundabouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, Davkaus said: It's got some pretty stiff competition. After 13 years of these words removed, I'm hard pressed to think of many places in Britain that aren't shitholes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 22, 2023 Moderator Share Posted November 22, 2023 Stockton South (soon to be Stockton West) is one of those Red Wall seats they won at the last election. I'm sure the Tory MP Matt VIckers is delighted, actually no, he probably doesn't care because he's yet another complete cock in a suit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 Cleverly is the man who previously referred to the Rwanda plan as “batshit” and then didn’t remember using the word when asked about it so he has form for talking crap then denying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 38 minutes ago, Genie said: Don't want to go home Don't want to go hooooome Because I'm already at home, but if I was in Tamworth, I'd want to go home. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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