peterms Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 "Failing" Grayling is unusually inept, though. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Can we add 'NHS dismantling' to the thread title? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 1 hour ago, darrenm said: Par for the course with the Tories. Put someone in charge of something they have absolutely no idea about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted January 12, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted January 12, 2017 Sobering to think she's now the Lord Chancellor. You'd think it'd be fairly hard to do worse than Grayling... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Hunt - 1 or 2 hospitals suffering a bit Grayling - road users aren't road users if they're not in a car Truss - ..... Cheese May - brexit means brexit means read white and blue Has there ever been a more incompetent government? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 1 minute ago, darrenm said: Hunt - 1 or 2 hospitals suffering a bit Grayling - road users aren't road users if they're not in a car Truss - ..... Cheese May - brexit means brexit means read white and blue Has there ever been a more incompetent government? Hammond - took personal stake in food technology company months before it won share of £560,000 Government contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 On 1/8/2017 at 13:34, StefanAVFC said: May on Ridge this morning: (re NHS) "I don't accept the Red Cross' position on this" How can anyone defend these evil words removed anymore? Because the Red Cross were talking out of their arse. Stories like "British Red Cross Land Rovers have been deployed to the UK’s streets to help ferry patients home from overstretched hospitals and free up beds, after reports of deaths and patients waiting on trolleys in corridors" were designed to give the impression that the UK is like some third world country that can only survive with emergency help from the Red Cross. When in fact, if you check the Red Cross's Twitter feed, they've been doing it for years: Every year, we help around 80,000 people leave hospital and provide them with practical and emotional support once they're home. The past NINE years you say? EVERY year you help people leave hospital? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chindie Posted January 12, 2017 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2017 There was more to their comments than the ambulances thing. And it would seem to be with merit on the back of comments from staff. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Rudd's threat to name and shame companies employing foreigners is right up there with all the others. the nasty party Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PompeyVillan Posted January 12, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2017 The Red Cross actually said there was a humanitarian crisis, not that they drive people home from hospital. There is quite a difference. For shame I give the closest large hospital to me Worcester Royal as an example of under funding and over stretching. It results in people dying in the corridors waiting for treatment. So, whether the RedCross embellish a bit is neither here nor there to me. But personally I think humanitarian crisis covers it quite well. And it makes me beyond angry. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Just how much cocaine did David Lidington consume before Question Time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, snowychap said: Just how much cocaine did David Lidington consume before Question Time? Let, let me, let me. let me just say, let me just, let me just, let, let, let me just say.... Yeah, nobody else is actually interrupting you mate, just add some new words. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 2 hours ago, darrenm said: Grayling - road users aren't road users if they're not in a car I don't know much about this guy or if he's doing a good job, but this particular 'story' is pathetic spin, the worst kind of media sound bite bullshit, taking him out of context. He distinguished between cyclists and road users in areas with protected cycling lanes in London. In these specific areas, cyclists aren't road users. He wasn't saying they weren't in a general sense. It comes to something when I find myself defending a **** Tory minister, but I hate these disingenuous little media games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 2 hours ago, chrisp65 said: Rudd's threat to name and shame companies employing foreigners is right up there with all the others. the nasty party Been done previosuly and can't be arsed to go through the thread and old news stories but in summary wasn't it that a) she didn't say that and b ) she stole the idea from Ed Miliband ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Davkaus said: He distinguished between cyclists and road users in areas with protected cycling lanes in London. In these specific areas, cyclists aren't road users. Are they not? Are they banned from using the road? Edit: What he says is: Quote Where there are cycle lanes, cyclists are the users of cylce lanes and there's a road alongside, the motorists and the road users are the users of the road. It's fairly straightforward... Other than a reference to the Evening Standard, I can't see that there is anything in the exchange that has any reference to London. Obviously there may be more than I've seen. Apologies if that means I've made a mistake. Edited January 13, 2017 by snowychap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 13 minutes ago, Davkaus said: I don't know much about this guy or if he's doing a good job, but this particular 'story' is pathetic spin, the worst kind of media sound bite bullshit, taking him out of context. He distinguished between cyclists and road users in areas with protected cycling lanes in London. In these specific areas, cyclists aren't road users. He wasn't saying they weren't in a general sense. It comes to something when I find myself defending a **** Tory minister, but I hate these disingenuous little media games. I'd just read the article myself and was thinking along the same lines ...I imagine had Corbyn said the same we'd now be discussing the media conspiracy agaisnt Corbyn rather than having another round of Tories are evil posts ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 8 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: I imagine ... You aren't imagining anything of the sort, are you? But yes, Tories are evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, snowychap said: You aren't imagining anything of the sort, are you? I am... its easy if you try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 1 minute ago, tonyh29 said: I am... its easy if you try Yawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, snowychap said: Yawn. I'll admit it wasn't my best effort but my John Lennon reference appears to have gone higher than a Heskey shot from 6 yards but from the yawn maybe it was tiredness that made you miss it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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