Stevo985 Posted September 28, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 28, 2020 13 hours ago, Chindie said: The UK is fairly right wing. We don't like to accept that - I'll probably get quoted to point out how wrong this opinion is - but there's still a lot of prejudices (petty and otherwise) and fundamentally an 'I'm alright Jack' foundation. Theres obviously some left flag markers - the NHS is predominantly loved, outright flagrant racism isn't outwardly shown, there's fairly widespread support for a benefit support system - but there's also still things like pernicious racism, there's still a widespread nationalism, there's no desire to tackle many of the issues that society faces. This gets handwaved as loopy lefties focusing on minute things that don't matter, that don't sell to society. But this ignores that society ain't buying... But it will buy the stuff sold by the team that doesn't give a **** about any of that. In darker moments I often think it would be easier to be right wing and not give a ****. I agree that the UK is right wing. The NHS is celebrated, but if it didn't exist and was proposed now I don't think it would be approved/voted in/ accepted by the population/whatever We're lucky that it's been established for so long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 28, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Follyfoot said: Honest question, is there any objection to the wearing of the poppy that I have missed or even deems it in appropriate or right wing? I’ve seen it appear to be criticised a few times in posts and always wondered, no angle just a question I don't think anyone has a problem with wearing the poppy. The problem is with the obligation to wear one, imo. And the attitude of some people towards those who don't wear one. To the extent that, as demonstrated above, people have to put a poppy on the **** Cookie Monster because they're afraid of people complaining about someone not wearing one. There's also all the fake stories every year about people being offended by the poppy and being told not to display the poppy etc. It renders the symbol itself almost meaningless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 1 hour ago, avfcDJ said: **** hell 1 hour ago, Follyfoot said: Last time Prince Andrew was seen in public? If you like these by the way - I'm a big fan - you can find an entire Twitter account dedictaed to them here: https://twitter.com/MascotSilence/with_replies 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted September 28, 2020 Moderator Share Posted September 28, 2020 4 hours ago, darrenm said: I think it's just the nigh on fascism of being forced to wear one. People should be free to choose how they respect the dead, or even if they do or not. Being all "where's your **** poppy?!" about it is not how a free society should work. Lest we don't forget! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted September 28, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 28, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, NurembergVillan said: Lest we don't forget! Sorry, not having it. Very tiny minority and not at all representative for every one of these knuckle dragging contradictions there are a million of these Edited September 28, 2020 by Follyfoot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NurembergVillan Posted September 28, 2020 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2020 46 minutes ago, Follyfoot said: Sorry, not having it. Very tiny minority and not at all representative There's nothing to not have. I don't for one minute think the poppy has become a fascist symbol but it's certainly become a de facto nationalist one in some quarters. In country where being patriotic is now almost a competition (like it is for our former colonial cousins) the poppy has been seized upon as a way to display that, often in crass ways and often as a token gesture that meanwhile ignores homeless veterans, Gurkhas and other foreign support, and our light-touch role in conflict elsewhere (but I shan't get into missile sales again here). We're living through a time when "we won war" is more important than it was at any point since perhaps the 1950s. Huge VE Day street parties, Spitfires flying over the country to thank the NHS, Brexit... I'm thankful to those who have served and sacrificed. I'm disdainful of those who would misappropriate that to their own ends. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted September 28, 2020 Moderator Share Posted September 28, 2020 For balance, here are some non-Nazi examples of quality Remembrancing... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted September 28, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said: There's nothing to not have. I don't for one minute think the poppy has become a fascist symbol but it's certainly become a de facto nationalist one in some quarters. In country where being patriotic is now almost a competition (like it is for our former colonial cousins) the poppy has been seized upon as a way to display that, often in crass ways and often as a token gesture that meanwhile ignores homeless veterans, Gurkhas and other foreign support, and our light-touch role in conflict elsewhere (but I shan't get into missile sales again here). We're living through a time when "we won war" is more important than it was at any point since perhaps the 1950s. Huge VE Day street parties, Spitfires flying over the country to thank the NHS, Brexit... I'm thankful to those who have served and sacrificed. I'm disdainful of those who would misappropriate that to their own ends. Thank the Lord for that, your post coupled with the first part of your username made me think the new third Reich was imminent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 28, 2020 Moderator Share Posted September 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, Follyfoot said: Thank the Lord for that, your post coupled with the first part of your username made me think the new third Reich was imminent He rally is alright you know 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 28, 2020 Moderator Share Posted September 28, 2020 Quote Claudia Webbe: Leicester East MP (LAB) charged with harassment against woman Sky Must be something in the air in Leicester East, Keith Vaz was the last incumbent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 22 minutes ago, Follyfoot said: Thank the Lord for that, your post coupled with the first part of your username made me think the new third Reich was imminent I think they'd probably just call it the fourth Reich. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted September 28, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, ml1dch said: I think they'd probably just call it the fourth Reich. Does not fit in with the Nuremburg part of my post as well but sure as hell they wont take that into consideration when a plottin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 58 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said: For balance, here are some non-Nazi examples of quality Remembrancing... Wow, and here I thought that David Squires cartoon was just a joke... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted September 28, 2020 Moderator Share Posted September 28, 2020 3 hours ago, Follyfoot said: Thank the Lord for that, your post coupled with the first part of your username made me think the new third Reich was imminent My username in its entirety would raise a few eyebrows were it not for the missing "i" in Villan! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted October 1, 2020 Moderator Share Posted October 1, 2020 Naughty man did bad thing. Quote Jeremy Corbyn has been pictured breaking the ‘rule of six’ at a dinner party with eight other people. The former Labour leader, 71, apologised after the picture of him, alongside his wife Laura Alvarez, 51, emerged from the bash. Under the current lockdown measures, Mr Corbyn and his friends all face £200 fines each Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted October 1, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 hour ago, blandy said: Naughty man did bad thing. champagne socialism, tskkkkkkkk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Its the obsession with taking photos and uploading them to the web that gets people caught. Schoolboy error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 So, this is what the Islington dinner party set look like. They look like they’ve put that Enya CD on repeat because the only other CD was that free Daily Mirror Christmas Party CD from 1998. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 5 hours ago, Xela said: Its the obsession with taking photos and uploading them to the web that gets people caught. Schoolboy error. Was it uploaded by someone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icouldtelltheworld Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Was it uploaded by someone? Point is that someone took it in the first place I guess, nowadays it's always likely to end up on the internet. Silly really, he's such a high profile character that something like this will obviously end up getting out somehow Edited October 1, 2020 by icouldtelltheworld Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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