darrenm Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 1 hour ago, tonyh29 said: tell you what Darren if you can quote me where I said "friend of the terrorists" then I'll say no more but , we were talking about principles and I argued they aren't the right principles, .. if you think the morally dubious political groups like the IRA , Hamas and Hezbollah etc are the right principles then that's fair enough , however it doesn't give you the right to belittle me or my posts because I don't Fair enough I obviously misread your post, sorry. Are you missing a bit at the end there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted January 3, 2017 Moderator Share Posted January 3, 2017 1 hour ago, tonyh29 said: tell you what Darren if you can quote me where I said "friend of the terrorists" then I'll say no more You've claimed he and Labour are sympathisers of terrorists before, and you implied as much on the previous page. Not exactly the same thing as "friend" but close enough as to make no difference. On 02/12/2015 at 09:48, tonyh29 said: ....As I understand it he said " "You don't want to walk through the lobbies with Jeremy Corbyn and a bunch of terrorist sympathisers." ...so he's talking specifically about Labour MP's I agree it is a crass statement unbecoming of a PM , although it is also factually correct .. I'd partly agree as it happens, but there you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 50 minutes ago, darrenm said: Fair enough I obviously misread your post, sorry. Are you missing a bit at the end there? Yeah , a full stop I was tidying up my post and the phone rung so I sorta lost my train of thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAVe80 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Jeremy Corbyn and the terrorist sympathisers This would be a great name for a band. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 20 minutes ago, blandy said: You've claimed he and Labour are sympathisers of terrorists before, and you implied as much on the previous page. Not exactly the same thing as "friend" but close enough as to make no difference. I'd partly agree as it happens, but there you go. I'd have got away with it if it wasnt for Sherlock Blandy tbf i don't think it detracts from Darren misunderstanding my post though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 one man's terrorist is another man's Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted January 3, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted January 3, 2017 One and the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 yeah, what an absolute bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 I bet Corbyn would be friends with that awful terrorist Guido Fawkes if he was still alive today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted January 3, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted January 3, 2017 10 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: yeah, what an absolute bastard I make no comment on the nature of his aims, just that he did use a terrorist methodology and that would make him a terrorist. Laughably off topic anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 48 minutes ago, darrenm said: I bet Corbyn would be friends with that awful terrorist Guido Fawkes if he was still alive today. Corbyns principles probably mean he'd plot against James and then swear an oath to him 5 minutes later when Ye Sun critisced him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_c Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 3 hours ago, dAVe80 said: Jeremy Corbyn and the terrorist sympathisers This would be a great name for a band. I feel they'd be an a really horrendous folk trio. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chrisp65 Posted January 10, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2017 Interview on Radio 4 this morning between John Humphrys and Jeremy Corbyn. Now, there are the usual problems with any JH interview in that he likes to interrupt the instant any guest begins to speak as it gives the illusion that he has them on the back foot. He also suffers from not quite remembering the exact question he asked and thinking he’s caught people out, when he hasn’t. But that’s a side issue. He was trying to ridicule Corbyn with his usual ‘amazed’ tone at any answer without actually listening to the answer before banging in to the same question again and again. So to an extent he let Corbyn off the hook in that twice (on the subject of immigration and free movement of people) when JC was basically asked ‘what would you do?’ he then talked over and drowned out the answer from JC, that he was going to attend a conference in February of like-minded socialist movements across Europe to express unity and create bonds. Personally, I think that might not blow Theresa May out of the polls. When JC finally managed to give an answer to an actual question, it was a wrong answer. He was asked if there should be an upper limit on pay, or whether there should be more tax on higher earnings. He decided greater taxation on greater earnings wasn’t the answer. He wanted to see a wage cap (he used the word ‘cap’), a legal limit on what you can earn in the UK. Absolute winner of an idea there JC. Let’s not tax chrispy at 60, 70 or 80% if he earns £10 million. Let’s pass a law saying he can’t legally earn £10 million if he wants to live in the UK. If you can be put in a position by the deep intellect of John Humphrys, where in a 5 minute interview you're solution to immigration is to organise an international socialist conference and your solution to pay inequality is to ban high wages, you are not the answer. I don't know who is. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 (edited) Corbyn leading Labour into running after the Tories shouting 'Us too! Us too!'. Expected better; always said he was principled but spineless. Now it's clear he's unprincipled and spineless. So much for a Brexit for the 100%. He's acknowledging the referendum was about immigration to win back Northern votes while abandoning the centre-left vote. My only hope now is that the Lib Dems capitalise on it. Edited January 10, 2017 by StefanAVFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted January 10, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted January 10, 2017 Not a shock. It taints his image (calling the sites Tories to point and laugh) but he's got even less chance of success supporting free movement. In chucking that under the bus he improves his electibility from absolutely never, ever, ever will be PM, to will be PM when pigs fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 that is kinda the problem though for both parties .. Cameron had to act to stop haemorrhaging voters to UKIP and eventually Labour realised they had to do the same thing ( there was a bit of denial at first that their supporters aren't racist and thus they weren't losing voters to UKIP ) and come out as tough on immigration It's not just Corbyn , the man who probably has aspirations to become leader one day Chuka Umunna , said in April 2016 The Leave campaign want us to quit the single market and be like ‘Albania’. and then in September changed his mind to say he too would sacrifice access to the Single Market if it meant keeping the current freedom of movement rules and now seems to be trying to have his cake and eat it by chairing a think tank that says we want controlled local immigration ( didn't Clegg get slaughtered for Postcode Prisoners in 2010 when he proposed this ?) they will say anything to get elected these people ... whether the public will forgive the Libs over Tuition fees and the other damage inflicted by Clegg in a gamble to be Kingmaker so quickly and make them a major player remains to be seen .... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Yep I would agree with that Tony. The public have successfully bought the idea that the pressure on wages/jobs is caused by immigration rather than a failing globalised system which via ever increasing automation is fuelling rampant inequality across the world. Neither party can come up with a coherent solution because they are answering the wrong question. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I think he's making a play for the revolting northerners, to get them back from UKIP. I think this is an awful decision for two reasons. 1) I think it's too little too late for those already voting UKIP. 2) The centre-left core were the people who voted him in and this decision will alienate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted January 10, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted January 10, 2017 He's done an interview with Kuenssberg which is perhaps slightly enlightening. And brave, given her track record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted January 10, 2017 Moderator Share Posted January 10, 2017 35 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: I think he's making a play for the revolting northerners, to get them back from UKIP. There's a by election just up the road from here (I'm a revolting northerner, [by location, anyway]) pretty soon. It'll be that, I imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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