The 2015 General Election

[snowychap]

The sole solitatary and very lonely good idea UKIP have managed is to overhaul personal taxation, do away with NI and have one flat rate of tax. You earn x, you pay tax at y%. Not hard.

Is that still their policy? (Edit: I meant the combining of tax and NI as opposed to the flat rate)

If so, how do they square that with the importance they put on contributory social security payments?

Edited January 29, 2015 by snowychap

[Mantis]

I thought there'd be more ukips on here.

 

Where do you think we are?

 

I'm surprised at the Tory vote though.

 

 

[MakemineVanilla]

 

The sole solitatary and very lonely good idea UKIP have managed is to overhaul personal taxation, do away with NI and have one flat rate of tax. You earn x, you pay tax at y%. Not hard.

Is that still their policy?

If so, how do they square that with the importance they put on contributory social security payments?

 

 

What about the employer's contribution; do they mention anything about that?

[villaajax]

I'm interested to hear what those Green voters thought of Natalie Bennett's interview on Sunday Politics. Are those policies something you really agree with or even think are feasible?

[lapal_fan]

Didn't see it because i have better things to do than watch Sunday Politics lol

[Xela]

Lots of Green voters... didn't realise we had so many ISIS and Al-Qaeda fans...

 

[villaajax]

Didn't see it because i have better things to do than watch Sunday Politics lol

 

Just watch it on YouTube then, lol.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32aqb167NkE

[lapal_fan]

Touche!

[HanoiVillan]

I turned it off after one and a half minutes. Their policies may or may not be practical, but listening to Andrew Neil butt in constantly is a torture I'm not prepared to deal with. 

[Eames]

The sole solitatary and very lonely good idea UKIP have managed is to overhaul personal taxation, do away with NI and have one flat rate of tax. You earn x, you pay tax at y%. Not hard.

Is that still their policy? (Edit: I meant the combining of tax and NI as opposed to the flat rate)

If so, how do they square that with the importance they put on contributory social security payments?

No idea... Couldn't care less. It just seems to me to make sense to collect one lot of tax once...rather than two lots once. Employer's contributions ate more tricky granted which is why no one on their right mind would let me near their accounts.

[villaajax]

I turned it off after one and a half minutes. Their policies may or may not be practical, but listening to Andrew Neil butt in constantly is a torture I'm not prepared to deal with. 

 

I dare you to watch it all

[snowychap]

 

If so, how do they square that with the importance they put on contributory social security payments?

No idea... Couldn't care less. It just seems to me to make sense to collect one lot of tax once...rather than two lots once.

 

I agree with you that it seems to make sense to combine the two and just collect one tax (especially as the direction seems to be to align the two in terms of allowances/lower limits) but there is a problem when you come to contributory benefits especially for those who, at present, would be getting NI credits (i.e. they wouldn't actually be paying NI but would be credited as though they were for the sake of future contribution based benefits, especially the pension).

Those people receiving NI credits include people on sickness benefits, ESA, maternity/paternity pay, carers, parents, foster carers, people getting working tax credit amongst others.

p.s. I'm not expecting you to answer on their behalf. I've not got you down as a UKIP spokesbod.

Edited January 29, 2015 by snowychap

[bickster]

I turned it off after one and a half minutes. Their policies may or may not be practical, but listening to Andrew Neil butt in constantly is a torture I'm not prepared to deal with.

 

I dare you to watch it all

I'll watch it all if you can defend Labours stance on the TTIP. You want mad ideas, that one is mad, bad and dangerous.

[snowychap]

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Edited January 30, 2015 by snowychap

[bickster]

For the first time in my life, I just got canvassed (by Labour). Strange experience. Lots of stock answers, lots of utter bullshit. Called her out on her bullshit

Claimed Labour were against the TTIP, informed her with quotes that they weren't

Called out her bullshit on the public sector tendering for rail contracts, told her that was utterly pointless if they were simply taken back at the end of the contract then there was no need to tender and it was more cost effective.

She then came out with "the Conservatives want to privatise the NHS", she didn't know what to say when I said "but you started it".

She then seemed completely baffled when I told her I don't vote for right wing parties

Hope she's gone away with plenty to think about, like she's in the wrong party, seemed like a nice enough kid.

[pacbuddies]

I thought there'd be more ukips on here.

Maybe there are. [emoji4]

[CarewsEyebrowDesigner]

They're in the walls!

[walesavfc]

i will vote against any career politician who has no idea about the real world so that just leaves greens or Ukip.... 

 

Ukip have shaken up the established self serving parties well though, new labour and torrie policies have all got something they knicked from ukip cos they think thats just the reason why they lost bye elections... err no its not..

 

Alot are fed up with the way this country is run and it needs sweeping changes, not just a ahhh we will show them this but do this attitude.

 

I Vote to live under Common Law  fekk the way extra taxes etc are put on us through civil law with its illegal taxes that most just pay

 

bah rant over cos could go into too much detail has to why this Island is broke

Edited January 30, 2015 by walesavfc

[villaajax]

i will vote against any career politician who has no idea about the real world so that just leaves greens or Ukip.... 

 

[HanoiVillan]

 

 

I turned it off after one and a half minutes. Their policies may or may not be practical, but listening to Andrew Neil butt in constantly is a torture I'm not prepared to deal with.

 

I dare you to watch it all

 

I'll watch it all if you can defend Labours stance on the TTIP. You want mad ideas, that one is mad, bad and dangerous.

 

 

I had always considered myself moderately well-informed before, but I have to admit I had forgotten what TTIP was, until your comment made me look it up. All I can say is, that essentially guarantees I'll vote for an alternative. Every single part of it sounds disgusting, and then once it's in place it's there forever. Great.