Czechlad Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 It's a guessing game with Lerner. I mean who would have predicted McLeish years ago?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Former Aston Villa manager Brian Little, who was the last man to lead the club to a major trophy, has been speaking to BBC Sport about the current situation at Villa Park. "I'm not sure I would want to be the football manager at the club. I would love to help out in some capacity but I think at the moment the job is for someone who is very current and someone who is right in amongst it. "Their main choice now is whether it's a short term appointment to make sure we stay up or is it a long term appointment." From BBC Sportsday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Has Slaven's beard been spotted at VP yet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Hoddle ! https://mobile.twitter.com/footballfunnys/status/477169885156741120 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn1982 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 This 'Managing Villa is a bad job, nobody would want it' is media fed bollox, look at the facts Lambert was the Premier Leagues second longest serving manager with the poorest record of them all. Villa is an excellent opportunity for a good manager, they will be given time by the owner and the fans, unlike 90% of other premier league teams, money may be tight but the squad we have is strong and has been for years. If a manager isn't good enough to get the most from the opportunity they have been given, to manage Villa, then they have destroyed their own career's. Agree to an extent - but you can't argue with the fact that not many managers leave Villa to go on to bigger and better things (maybe only GT leaving for England), and not many actually go on to achieve anything of any significance. Villa is the door to career suicide....its not appealing to successful established managers, its only appealing to those who are stepping up from lower leagues, or to those who have nothing to lose. The Doc managed Scotland and Man U after us so he was an exception, Graham Turner had some success at other clubs, but generally its true. I think most people find it a very tough job mentally and are normally burnt out afterwards. This happened to Little and Gregory. How many managers of similar teams go on to better things, David Moyes Everton to Manure? Can't think of many more. Fact is, Lerner doesn't sack managers without a very good reason, he gives them the best chance to succeed in the League, to date, but they still have to perform, if they don't then they have to go. Well the point is, you have to compare like with like. You can't compare us to Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal etc. as for the last 20 years they havn't been shopping around for managers, they have either had long term manager in place or have changed managers and appointed big names.... The clubs that are simliar to us are arguably, off the top of my head - 1) Spurs - Hoddle went to England, Redknapp was linked with England 2) Everton - Moyes was there a long time and went to Man Utd, but it didn't work out 3) Wigan - Martinez left to go to Everton 4) QPR / Fulham - Hughes did well and left both and is still doing well 5) Stoke - Pulis left has done well since 6) Newcastle - Hughton was sacked and went on to find employment although he did take Norwich down eventually! Pardew will do well at Palace 7) Southampton - Pochetinno went to Suprs, and Koeman looks like he will be great for them 8) Swansea - Rodgers went to Liverpool, and although Laudrup was sacked, his reputation is still in tact 9) Norwich - Lambert did well for them and left to take a step up to us Obviously not every manager of these clubs have been a success, but they have at least had some managers who havn't been failures! The only recent manager we have had who was a "success" was probably MON. He was linked at least passing with the England job both before and after he joined us, and when he left we had just had a decent season and his reputation was relatively in tact, at least with everyone other Villa fans. The point is, if you were looking at the Villa job, there is not many people you can look at where you could say - "he did well, and then went on to do XYZ" That's because we are the pinnacle for a lot of managers coming here. They wouldn't get better offers at the time. We have dropped a bit but with the right manager we could easily be pushing top 6 again with big crowds etc in a couple of years. After that you only have a handleful of clubs that are bigger and better and they attract the very best managers ones who wouldn't come to us in the first place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I bet Steve Bould is offered the job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted February 12, 2015 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2015 (edited) It seems like people don't like Sherwood as a personality but are ignoring his ability as a manager, or neither. His ability as manager is yet to really be seen. He has managed a grand total of 28 games in his illustrious career. He has an impressive win percentage but it was spattered with tactical naievity and some embarrassing humpings. Plus because his ratio is based on a small sample it is incredibly volatile. For example, if he'd drawn just 3 of those games instead of won them, his win percentage drops by around 12%. Two of them and it drops by around 9%. Still not bad ratios but nowhere near as impressive as the 50% makes it out to be. It also ignores his losses, which at 35% is quite high. In fact it's about the same as Gus Poyet at Sunderland (37%). In fact, if 2 of his wins had been losses instead, then he'd have as many losses as wins. So yes, his record, on the face of it, was good at spurs. But it's warped by the small sample and the low amount of draws he managed (only 4 in 28 games). Given the fact that there's a fairly large consensus that he'd already been "found out" at Spurs tactically, it's not a huge leap to assume that that win ratio may have taken a downward turn if the sample size increased. Edited February 13, 2015 by Stevo985 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Pushing for top 6 is not an option for us with an uncommitted owner, even with an amazing manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I bet Steve Bould is offered the job. But would Wenger write a letter of recommendation for his Assistant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 With the rubbish that's been linked with us, I'd much rather have Laursen and Mellberg as his number 2 put in place until the end of the season. Whats Sherwood done that he gets linked so heavily? If we cant get an experienced relegation battled manager then get these 2 in who have about the same amount of experience as Tim bloody Sherwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Sherwood gets linked heavily as he's free at the moment and is whoring himself to all and sundry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONCABA Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I bet Steve Bould is offered the job. Yeah, if i was a betting man, thats who my money would be on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobler Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I personally don't think there's any chance we will even look at Sherwood. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I bet Steve Bould is offered the job. Yeah, if i was a betting man, thats who my money would be on But people are only guessing at Arsenal connections because of Richard's suggestion that this time we getting a letter from Wenger rather than Ferguson. As I say would Wenger really be writing a letter asking us to employ Bould when he's still at Arsenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I personally don't think there's any chance we will even look at Sherwood. I pray this is the case Surely randy will not appoint another turd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Remi Garde, who interested Newcastle, is also free after leaving Lyon and would likely come with a good recommendation from Arsene Wenger to Fox, the two being former Arsenal colleagues.I wonder where they got that from... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 ^^^ Beat me to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 There are ALWAYS the same names that get put to the top of the betting list for every job in the league. The fact that Sherwood has been favorite for the WBA, Palace, Leicester, Newcastle & QPR in the last 6 months shows the bookies know knob all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 (edited) Sherwood will end up being no better than the likes of Pearce, Bryan Robson, Paul Ince and the like. Edited February 12, 2015 by useless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffy Biro Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Not many assistants in the world that you'd want to take over here is there? Paul Clement is one of the only ones i'd be interested in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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