useless Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Lambert could change the channel with his psychic powers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Last 8 games: 95 Shots, 31 on target, 32% on target, 5 goals, 16% conversion rate, 54% average possession, 82% pass success. We might need to work on our finishing Worth quoting to bring to the new page. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) Shots ≠ chances. We aren't creating enough in our play, that is undeniable. Edited January 5, 2015 by Isa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 The issue is certainly a failure to take our chances when presented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Against Crystal Palace: A total of 14 shots (3 on target). Against Sunderland: A total of 14 shots (2 on target). Against Swansea: A total of 11 shots (3 on target) Against Man Utd: A total of 10 shots (4 on target) Against West Brom: A total of 7 shots (2 on target) So the idea that we aren't creating anything is not strictly true. Our finishing is simply not good enough. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sheepyvillian Posted January 5, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2015 Gets booed and then deflects it on to the players . I , for one , see right through you Mr Lambert . 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnski Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) Gets booed and then deflects it on to the players . I , for one , see right through you Mr Lambert .You think booing and jeering the manager doesn't have a negative effect on the players? Your post is a bit ironic also as it seems you can't see through Learners deflection tactic that has basically hung Lambert out to dry on many occasions. Edited January 5, 2015 by Bunnski 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I knew someone was to blame , that bloody Randy . Editors hey , what would we do without them ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Jesus Christ is that 7/10 outfield defenders I count in McLeish's final game? And Given!!! Yes. Yes it is. And do you remember the stick he got for that? Or has that conveniently slipped your mind? No it hasn't but I think the comparison between how Lambert plays and how McLeish played laughable to be honest especially when you try and claim Bacuna as a defensive player. Can't agree with the bold Trent. For the majority of the last 2.5 years under Lambert we have virtually mirrored Mcleish. Not in formation and players obviously but the style hasn't been that different. Both have adopted a style that has been more to stop the opposition rather than take the game to them. Under both the villa have been a defensive counter attacking team with very few ideas in attack. Without looking a the stats(forgive me) I would give a confident guess that since Bacuna joined us he has for the most part played as a fullback(epecially last season) due to the issues at rightback with Lowton?! Is Bacuna really a defensive player? I think we all know the real answer to that though regardless of where he has played, however you could claim he is or has been mainly used in this role. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Bacuna is not a naturally defensive player no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Villa were not counter attacking under McLeish. Under McLeish Villa barely attacked at all. There is no valid comparison between the two sides except to say they're not very good. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 McLeish wouldn't have signed Westwood, Okore or Benteke IMHO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Bacuna is not a naturally defensive player no. I didn't say he was. I think I suggested he wasn't(IMO) regardless of where he has played. Although it's not completely ridiculous for someone to suggest he is or that he has been used defensively for the majority of his time here. Up to now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Villa were not counter attacking under McLeish. Under McLeish Villa barely attacked at all. There is no valid comparison between the two sides except to say they're not very good. @ dont_do_it_doug. Ok, maybe mirrored was the wrong term. But there are certainly simularities with the lack of ideas and movement in attack. More concerned with stopping the opposition rather than taking the game to them. I think it's very valid to suggest there are comparisons especially as you can't really argue that for the majority of Lambert's time here we haven't attacked very much either. @ DK82. I also said not in formation and players. I never suggested for one minute Mcleish and Lambert were comparable in transfers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 McLeish wouldn't have signed Westwood, Okore or Benteke IMHO. McLeish would dispute that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post markavfc40 Posted January 5, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) I think certainly for much of last season and all of this the emphasis has been more on stopping the opposition scoring rather than trying to score ourselves. I see it has us being more concerned with protecting the point we start the game with rather than going all out for the three points on offer. One of our biggest failings, and the thing that points towards us being too negative, is that of all our midfielders I can only remember Joe Cole making a run into the box this season to get on the end of a pass. I am sure it has happened on other occasions also but 9 times out of 10 when we do on occasions get the ball out wide and in a decent crossing position you look into the box and there are maybe 2 or 3 players in there. Non of the midfielders are seen breaking their necks making runs into the area to get on the end of things and all sit way too deep.Now you could say that is down to the players and that Lambert is telling them to get on the end of things but the fact that this has been the case for knocking on 18 months would suggest otherwise. I don't think Lambert is as negative as McLeish was but clearly something is seriously amiss. Eleven goals in 20 league games is a pathetic return and you add in the cup games against lower league opposition and it takes it to 12 goals in 22 games in total. I have seen the stats from recent games which state we have had 14 shots, 11 shots, 10 shots etc and some will suggest that stat alone suggests we are making plenty of chances. We aren't though. We create 2 maybe 3 decent chances a game the rest are speculative efforts from outside the box or no better than the kind of chance that will result in a goal 1 in 6 times. The squad contains players both in a creative sense and in terms of being able to put the ball in the back of the net that mean we are capable of a lot better than the goals for column shows. We need to go out with way more attacking intent though if that is to be proven to be the case. Edited January 5, 2015 by markavfc40 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villanun Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Question: Do you think this new tactic will work well against the top 10 sides or so who may actually set out to attack us... keeping the ball may frustrate them and we can then exploit the space? so far we'v eonly played it against weaker opposition... that said the top teams are there for a reason... I think we need to move the ball quickly from defense to attack and then play short passes between the attacking players rather than short passes through the team... Given the team's confidence problems, I think a high-pressing team like Chelsea will cause us major worries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 McLeish wouldn't have signed Westwood, Okore or Benteke IMHO. McLeish would dispute that one. McLeish would dispute that he is ginger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw_nuff Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Houllier also got £24 million to buy a top player, Lambert wont get that I wouldn't trust Lambert with the remote to the telly! I'm sure if you gave him the chance he would pick a cracking movie for you too watch. Just not 'Dawn of the Planet of the Apes'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 We definitely don't create enough clear chances, it's all well and good quoting 14 shots per match etc but how many of those 14 came even close to being a goal? We don't get in behind defences and it's rare a player goes through one on one. I welcome the change in style and the additional possession and can accept that it will take time for the players to learn how to be more creative but if we don't make it work over the next couple of months we could end up in a battle again at which point I think I'd rather take our chances with the previous option of hit n hope counter attack football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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