Voinjama Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Any surprise omissions this time? I don't think there will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 His infamous slip was a good example of why Gerrard is not a defensive midfielder, and that isn't his fault, it's just not his game. A player like Biscuits would not have let the ball roll across his body if there was striker on his shoulder. He's (most of the time) good in Liverpool's system because he's usually not asked to break up play. England will need a player to break up play, because they will be defending a lot more than Liverpool. Oh come on, he slipped, it happens, it has nothing to do with the fact that defensive midfield is not his position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 He slipped when he tried to recover from a mistake he made that had everything to do with it not being his natural position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 His infamous slip was a good example of why Gerrard is not a defensive midfielder, and that isn't his fault, it's just not his game. A player like Biscuits would not have let the ball roll across his body if there was striker on his shoulder. He's (most of the time) good in Liverpool's system because he's usually not asked to break up play. England will need a player to break up play, because they will be defending a lot more than Liverpool. Oh come on, he slipped, it happens, it has nothing to do with the fact that defensive midfield is not his position. Gerrard at 6'0" is slightly tall for a defensive midfielder. Your classic DM is between a 5'7" Claude Makelele and 5'10" Gennaro Gattuso. They need to be nippy and having made one tackle must be able to get up off the floor quickly to make another. Gerrard's high centre of gravity made slipping in high pressure situations like that against Chelsea more likely. His manager should have known Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 After that one slip they should have just shot him, like a race horse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 The old guard need to be dropped with the young guys coming into the immediate first team. The legacy of Gerrard, Cole et al in an England shirt is one of mediocrity, time to move on and build for the future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Needs more Agbonlahor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 The old guard need to be dropped with the young guys coming into the immediate first team. The legacy of Gerrard, Cole et al in an England shirt is one of mediocrity, time to move on and build for the future. ...but, it was a golden generation. Or was that just Paul Scholes (played out of position)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 (edited) Wrong post Edited May 11, 2014 by mikeyp102 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 His infamous slip was a good example of why Gerrard is not a defensive midfielder, and that isn't his fault, it's just not his game. A player like Biscuits would not have let the ball roll across his body if there was striker on his shoulder. He's (most of the time) good in Liverpool's system because he's usually not asked to break up play. England will need a player to break up play, because they will be defending a lot more than Liverpool. Oh come on, he slipped, it happens, it has nothing to do with the fact that defensive midfield is not his position. Gerrard at 6'0" is slightly tall for a defensive midfielder. Your classic DM is between a 5'7" Claude Makelele and 5'10" Gennaro Gattuso. They need to be nippy and having made one tackle must be able to get up off the floor quickly to make another. Gerrard's high centre of gravity made slipping in high pressure situations like that against Chelsea more likely. His manager should have known Redondo was 6'1" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Carrick's had a terrible season, his worst at Man. United comfortably. It's not like he was getting a regular game for England when he was playing well for their title winning teams. Bit bemused why people are putting him in their squads. Lampard and Cole would be shock omissions on account of their status and records for England. Wouldn't shock me if either still made the squad tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Redondo was 6'1" Leg to torso ratios... obviously! Let's see if I can find any photos of Redondo with short legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Carrick's had a terrible season, his worst at Man. United comfortably. It's not like he was getting a regular game for England when he was playing well for their title winning teams. Bit bemused why people are putting him in their squads. Lampard and Cole would be shock omissions on account of their status and records for England. Wouldn't shock me if either still made the squad tbh. I find it crazy that people still mention Andy Carroll. Perhaps he can go instead of Welbeck but Lambert is a must for his penalty taking skillz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers13 Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 That's a pretty bad reason for taking a player. That likely wouldn't be playing if there were PKs anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Ashley Cole left out of England's World Cup squad by Roy Hodgson Chelsea full back facing the end of his international career after rejecting chance to be on standby list for the World Cup in Brazil http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/england/10823764/Ashley-Cole-left-out-of-Englands-World-Cup-squad-by-Roy-Hodgson.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Only 8 player's have ever represented England in a world cup that were playing for Villa at the time. Withe, Hodge, Milner, Southgate, Vassell, Warnock, Platt and Heskey. Win the European cup, 1 player in the England squad that summer, you can't imagine that nowCole rejected the chance to be in the back up squad? **** him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Ashley Cole has retired now. Think that is very silly, he should be starting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 (edited) Baines to start then. It's good though, phasing out the old guard like Dr_P said, build for the future. Edited May 11, 2014 by AVFCforever1991 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchard Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Was it in the last World Cup Baines decided he did to want to go as he'd be homesick and Stephen Warnock (yes, he!) went instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted May 11, 2014 Moderator Share Posted May 11, 2014 Redondo was 6'1" Leg to torso ratios... obviously! Let's see if I can find any photos of Redondo with short legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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