maqroll Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 (edited) It's going to end in misery for England yet again. They might even struggle to advance out of their group. Not many good options and a manager who is past it. Edited November 20, 2013 by maqroll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 (edited) This is another reason why I can't stand Hodgson. He's so **** stubborn. The World Cup is still over 6 months away. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25029937 No doubt it'll be defended to the hilt but there really is no reason why a manager should adopt this kind of attitude so far away from the tournament. Edited November 21, 2013 by Mantis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 (edited) This is another reason why I can't stand Hodgson. He's so **** stubborn. The World Cup is still over 6 months away.http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25029937 No doubt it'll be defended to the hilt but there really is no reason why a manager should adopt this kind of attitude so far away from the tournament. That is ridiculous. What happens if Ravel Morrison scores and creates a lot of goals? What if 5/6 players have to pull out? What an idiot. Edited November 21, 2013 by dodgyknees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Basically telling all English players not yet involved in the squad to give up now...idiot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I feel sorry for people like Delph. He's worked his socks off and been playing fantastic recently only to be ignored for players like Cleverley and now the England manager has come out and basically told players like him looking to break into the team that there's no point in trying because they won't get in anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I guess it all depends on what English player moves to Manure in January... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I guess it all depends on what English player moves to Manure in January... Or Liverpool. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Short-sighted view. Especially if key players pick up serious injuries. With only one more friendly until the World Cup, it's mind boggling that Hodgson has not bled more younger and inexperienced players into the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 (edited) Yes but he hasn't totally ruled out the possibility of any new faces. With only one friendly game before the world cup final squad is announced then there's no time anyway to try out new faces. Anyway if Delph went to Brazil and had his head turned by other players like Milner and Downing did etc, whats the point! Edited November 21, 2013 by PaulC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted November 21, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted November 21, 2013 Yeh this annoyed me earlier. Hodgson is a complete fool. If Townsend has popped up from relative obscurity this season (okay he was apparently good for QPR too) to being probably in the starting 11 at the World Cup, how can he basically say no new players are going to get a look in, when it's over 6 months away and we've got another friendly in March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 what gabby said does make a lot of sense at times, delph, westwood and lowton all with fairly unrealistic shouts but I still would have liked a bit of belief spurring them on for us taking the villa glasses off berahino, Morrison, dawson, shaw, there are plenty of good players he hasn't looked at yet but no doubt the likes of andy "glass donkey" carroll will stroll back in to the frame when (if) he's fit as he provides "options", same with chamberlain, get himself fit by mid april and he'll be on the plane, saying that get himself fit by next week and make 10 sub appearances by the end of the season and he'll be on the plane 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Id love it there was a huge injury crisis and he ended up calling Delph or Gabby into the squad and they rejected the call. Can't believe Hodgson is actually so stupid to come out and say there will no new faces in the squad. No wonder I hate the England team so much, funny that in the last 10-15 years the two best managers have both been foreign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 there was a huge injury crisis at the end of last season when gabby was in great form and rather than call him up roy sat there and moaned about having no one to pick, at least twice this year roy has called up fewer than the maximum allowed and blamed it on pesky foreigners ruining English football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 well maybe he just doesnt want to give caps to players who dont deserve them like people moaned at Sven for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 well maybe he just doesnt want to give caps to players who dont deserve them like people moaned at Sven for Like Cleverley, Oxlade-Chamberlain etc.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 players that play for teams that are consistently in Champions LEague, their is a reason these players are at these clubs and why Gabby and Delph arent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 players that play for teams that are consistently in Champions LEague, their is a reason these players are at these clubs and why Gabby and Delph arent Except that neither of those two are playing regularly for their respective club and don't play well enough even when they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 you do realie Oxlade Chamberlain is injured and started 1st game of season in which he picked up injury after he assisted their only goal while Cleverley has played 12 times for United this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 (edited) I don't buy this whole, this player plays for a champions league team, so he must be good. I agree to an extent, better players play for better teams. but there must be more to it than that. Edited November 21, 2013 by AVFCforever1991 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 you do realie Oxlade Chamberlain is injured and started 1st game of season in which he picked up injury after he assisted their only goal while Cleverley has played 12 times for United this season Yes I do realise AOC is injured. Thus I'm obviously talking about last season where he barely played for Arsenal but was regularly picked by Woy. As for Cleverley, he has started six Premier League games this season and one UCL game. Not a regular by any stretch of the imagination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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